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Concealed Carry at Parades
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:12 am
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:12 am
So, this is probably a simple and dumb question. But when I lived in Louisiana 10+ years ago and had my permit there, I recall the laws stated that concealed carry, even with permit, was not allowed at permitted events such as parades. With the new constitutional carry changes in the state, is that still the case? I currently have my CHL in TX and this is the first time I'd be back around Mardi Gras while no longer drinking. Never thought about it in recent past since I wouldn't carry while drinking. Seems like you can always find contradicting information online.
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:18 am to Jon A thon
That was and is a state ordinance
You just learned about it during your CHP class
You just learned about it during your CHP class
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:21 am to Jon A thon
crowds of people drinking? What could possibly go wrong?
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:28 am to Jon A thon
If I remember right the way they word it is that you cannot carry at a permitted even.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:38 am to mylsuhat
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You just learned about it during your CHP class
I have an out of state reciprocal permit. Not all states have the same laws, hence the question. My last time with a Louisiana permit was over a decade ago. Lots of laws here in TX changed with constitutional carry. Such as a business has to have a very specific 30.06 sign to prohibit permitted carry. Can't just have a no guns sign. Basically made all sorts of previous statutes obsolete. Wondering if that happened in LA as well.
Again, you can see various articles discussing this and they say different things. It does seem rather clear on the state police site though.
quote:
CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT HOLDERS
A person who has completed the steps necessary to obtain a concealed carry permit in the state of Louisiana can carry their firearm with them as observers of the parade. Police officers are also allowed to carry firearms, of course.
Radom Article
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 10:44 am
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:44 am to Jon A thon
Yeah right, like people don't CCW at parades anyway. Unless there are metal detectors and manual searches for everyone, I'm carrying.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:47 am to Clames
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Yeah right, like people don't CCW at parades anyway. Unless there are metal detectors and manual searches for everyone, I'm carrying.
Honestly if I feel like I should be carrying, I'll take that stance. This was more of a curiosity with the change in laws recently and the first time I've thought about it as my wife reminded me we'd be heading back for some parades.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:52 am to Jon A thon
Wonder if the very people you want to defend yourself from are asking about the legal ramifications of being armed at a permitted event?
I'd venture "no" which is why I carry when I feel its necessary- regardless of the venue. Unless you are going thru a metal detector or other "search", who will know you are armed? Go for it.
I'd venture "no" which is why I carry when I feel its necessary- regardless of the venue. Unless you are going thru a metal detector or other "search", who will know you are armed? Go for it.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:53 am to TopWaterTiger
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crowds of people drinking? What could possibly go wrong?
If the carrier isn’t drinking, and is acting responsibly, I don’t see what the issue is (besides being illegal).
Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:11 pm to Jon A thon
I carry everywhere. Better to be judges by 12 than carried by 6.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 2:25 pm to Jon A thon
It's a good question and not so simple to explain, but the constitutional carry law recently passed still includes the prohibition against carrying at parades.
Here's how you get there.
La RS 14:95(A)(1) is the statute that makes it a crime to illegally carry a weapon.
A. Illegal carrying of weapons is any of the following:
(1)(a) The intentional concealment of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used or intended for probable use as a dangerous weapon, on one's person.
(b) The provisions of this Paragraph shall not apply to a person with a valid concealed handgun permit ...
The new constitutional carry law amended 14:95(M) and (N).
M. The provisions of Paragraph (A)(1) of this Section shall not apply to any person who is eighteen years of age or older and is not prohibited from possessing a firearm under R.S. 14:95.1, 18 U.S.C. 922(g), or any other state or federal law. (The cited laws are for felon in possession and the like).
N. Any person lawfully carrying a handgun pursuant to Subsection M of this Section shall be subject to the restrictions contained in R.S. 40:1379.3(I), (L), (M), (N), and (O).
The cited restrictions are the ones we know from the CCW laws that have been around for years.
R.S. 40:1379.3(I) is being under the influence of alcohol or a controlled dangerous substance. .05 BAC is a DQ.
L. sets for the penalties for violation
M. No concealed handgun may be carried into and no concealed handgun permit shall be valid or entitle any permittee to carry a concealed handgun in any facility, building, location, zone, or area in which firearms are banned by state or federal law.
N. No concealed handgun may be carried into and no concealed handgun permit issued pursuant to this Section shall authorize or entitle a permittee to carry a concealed handgun in any of the following:
(1) A law enforcement office, station, or building.
(2) A detention facility, prison, or jail.
(3) A courthouse or courtroom, provided that a judge may carry such a weapon in his own courtroom.
(4) A polling place.
(5) A municipal building or other public building or structure, only if the building or structure is utilized as the meeting place of the governing authority of a political subdivision.
(6) The state capitol building.
(7) Any portion of an airport facility where the carrying of firearms is prohibited under federal law, except that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, if the firearm is encased for shipment, for the purpose of checking such firearm as lawful baggage.
(8) Any church, synagogue, mosque, or other similar place of worship, eligible for qualification as a tax-exempt organization under 26 U.S.C. 501, unless authorized by the person who has authority over the administration of the church, synagogue, mosque, or other similar place of worship.
(9) A parade or demonstration for which a permit is issued by a governmental entity.
(10) Any portion of the permitted area of an establishment that has been granted a Class A-General retail permit, as defined in Part II of Chapter 1 or Part II of Chapter 2 of Title 26 of the Louisiana Revised Statutes of 1950, to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises.
(11) Any school, school campus, or school bus as defined in R.S. 14:95.6.
O. (1) The provisions of Subsection N of this Section shall not limit the right of a property owner, lessee, or other lawful custodian to prohibit or restrict access of those persons possessing a concealed handgun pursuant to a permit issued under this Section or a person lawfully carrying a handgun pursuant to R.S. 14:95(M).
(2) No individual to whom a concealed handgun permit is issued or who is lawfully carrying a handgun pursuant to R.S. 14:95(M) may carry a concealed handgun into the private residence of another without first receiving the consent of that person.
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Senator Blake Miguez sponsored the con carry law, and he was quoted on this after it passed:
Here's how you get there.
La RS 14:95(A)(1) is the statute that makes it a crime to illegally carry a weapon.
A. Illegal carrying of weapons is any of the following:
(1)(a) The intentional concealment of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used or intended for probable use as a dangerous weapon, on one's person.
(b) The provisions of this Paragraph shall not apply to a person with a valid concealed handgun permit ...
The new constitutional carry law amended 14:95(M) and (N).
M. The provisions of Paragraph (A)(1) of this Section shall not apply to any person who is eighteen years of age or older and is not prohibited from possessing a firearm under R.S. 14:95.1, 18 U.S.C. 922(g), or any other state or federal law. (The cited laws are for felon in possession and the like).
N. Any person lawfully carrying a handgun pursuant to Subsection M of this Section shall be subject to the restrictions contained in R.S. 40:1379.3(I), (L), (M), (N), and (O).
The cited restrictions are the ones we know from the CCW laws that have been around for years.
R.S. 40:1379.3(I) is being under the influence of alcohol or a controlled dangerous substance. .05 BAC is a DQ.
L. sets for the penalties for violation
M. No concealed handgun may be carried into and no concealed handgun permit shall be valid or entitle any permittee to carry a concealed handgun in any facility, building, location, zone, or area in which firearms are banned by state or federal law.
N. No concealed handgun may be carried into and no concealed handgun permit issued pursuant to this Section shall authorize or entitle a permittee to carry a concealed handgun in any of the following:
(1) A law enforcement office, station, or building.
(2) A detention facility, prison, or jail.
(3) A courthouse or courtroom, provided that a judge may carry such a weapon in his own courtroom.
(4) A polling place.
(5) A municipal building or other public building or structure, only if the building or structure is utilized as the meeting place of the governing authority of a political subdivision.
(6) The state capitol building.
(7) Any portion of an airport facility where the carrying of firearms is prohibited under federal law, except that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, if the firearm is encased for shipment, for the purpose of checking such firearm as lawful baggage.
(8) Any church, synagogue, mosque, or other similar place of worship, eligible for qualification as a tax-exempt organization under 26 U.S.C. 501, unless authorized by the person who has authority over the administration of the church, synagogue, mosque, or other similar place of worship.
(9) A parade or demonstration for which a permit is issued by a governmental entity.
(10) Any portion of the permitted area of an establishment that has been granted a Class A-General retail permit, as defined in Part II of Chapter 1 or Part II of Chapter 2 of Title 26 of the Louisiana Revised Statutes of 1950, to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises.
(11) Any school, school campus, or school bus as defined in R.S. 14:95.6.
O. (1) The provisions of Subsection N of this Section shall not limit the right of a property owner, lessee, or other lawful custodian to prohibit or restrict access of those persons possessing a concealed handgun pursuant to a permit issued under this Section or a person lawfully carrying a handgun pursuant to R.S. 14:95(M).
(2) No individual to whom a concealed handgun permit is issued or who is lawfully carrying a handgun pursuant to R.S. 14:95(M) may carry a concealed handgun into the private residence of another without first receiving the consent of that person.
***
Senator Blake Miguez sponsored the con carry law, and he was quoted on this after it passed:
quote:LINK
But Miguel (sic) also cautions that all the same restrictions, obligations, and responsibilities for a permit to carry will apply under constitutional carry. “So all those same restricted places and you know, carrying under the influence of alcohol is restricted to a certain level of 0.5 blood alcohol content and greater, as well as the duty to inform officers on an official stop.”
Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:41 pm to Twenty 49
I was taught as someone walking past a parade it does not apply
Someone permitted as part of the parade it does.
Don’t carry while drinking. Get a good lawyer
Someone permitted as part of the parade it does.
Don’t carry while drinking. Get a good lawyer
Posted on 2/6/25 at 3:50 pm to Jon A thon
Nowadays, if your NOT carrying in Nawlins’, your a statistic.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 5:36 pm to Twenty 49
quote:
law recently passed still includes the prohibition against carrying at parades.
years ago when i took the CC class, it was explained to me that no one has ever defined "at the parade". IE within the curbs? Behind the sidewalk? where are the limits?
He also asked,"...who wants to be the one to try that very first case?"
Posted on 2/7/25 at 7:26 am to Twenty 49
The splitting of the hairs and confusion in the law is aggravating. I’ve had CC instructors argue it both ways. Usually focused on the law saying “in” a parade versus going to a parade as an observer. They need to clear it up so there is no confusion.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 8:35 pm to Jon A thon
"very specific 30-06 sign." if this was texas they would have specified how many bullet holes are required for replacement
Posted on 2/8/25 at 9:12 pm to Jon A thon
Don't.
It's illegal and NOPD walks through the crowds with a hand wand.
It's illegal and NOPD walks through the crowds with a hand wand.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 1:06 am to Jon A thon
Carry where you want but fully expect that if it’s revealed that you’re carrying at a parade you’ll be charged.
Constitutional carry only changed that you don’t need a ccp. All other rules set when carrying with a ccp apply if you carry constitutionally.
Constitutional carry only changed that you don’t need a ccp. All other rules set when carrying with a ccp apply if you carry constitutionally.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 2:23 pm to Jon A thon
At Mardi Gras parades in Alabama, guns are not allowed, which means more are carrying them now because no one wants to be the one caught without a way to defend himself or his family should something go down.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 4:05 pm to Jon A thon
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Honestly if I feel like I should be carrying, I'll take that stance.
I just avoid going to places where I’d feel the need to carry. And I carry.
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