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What is the fascination with pushing your own self destruct button?
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:43 am
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:43 am
It’s difficult to comprehend sometimes just how insanely dumb human beings can be, even at the cost to their own lives, but such is it with free countries and Islam.
When I think of what Islam has done to places like Lebanon and Iran for example, I shudder, but then I look at Europe being taken over by Islam and it just doesn’t make sense how a people who should clearly know better can be so insanely stupid to allow this to happen to their own countries as if there’s a plan B in place for them, and there simply is not. Once it’s gone, It’s game over. That’s it.
1500 some odd years and there’s literally not one remarkable thing I can say that Islam has contributed to the world save conquest, oppression, and destruction, and our own people are complicit in their occupation of our countries, even coming to their defense as if that’s going to save their future as a people from destruction.
If the mere history of Islam itself isn’t enough, what’s it going to take before people awaken from their slumber?
When I think of what Islam has done to places like Lebanon and Iran for example, I shudder, but then I look at Europe being taken over by Islam and it just doesn’t make sense how a people who should clearly know better can be so insanely stupid to allow this to happen to their own countries as if there’s a plan B in place for them, and there simply is not. Once it’s gone, It’s game over. That’s it.
1500 some odd years and there’s literally not one remarkable thing I can say that Islam has contributed to the world save conquest, oppression, and destruction, and our own people are complicit in their occupation of our countries, even coming to their defense as if that’s going to save their future as a people from destruction.
If the mere history of Islam itself isn’t enough, what’s it going to take before people awaken from their slumber?
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:51 am to Mike da Tigah
MIC would disagree with Muslims contribution as many of pockets have been filled
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:51 am to Mike da Tigah
There are a number of errors in your post, even though the central idea is right, imo.
First, your statement that Islam has contributed zero in 1500 years is woefully incorrect. Islam kept a great deal of knowledge alive when Christianity had lost it, plus Islam advanced science. It wasn’t until the Renaissance that Christianity took back the torch of learning, science and civilization. So change 1500 to about 700 years and you wouldn’t be wrong.
Second, Europe could resist Islamic immigration, but it’s not intuitive that this would change much. The European birth rates are the real problem. Without those picking up, Europe would fall one way or the other. Same with us.
First, your statement that Islam has contributed zero in 1500 years is woefully incorrect. Islam kept a great deal of knowledge alive when Christianity had lost it, plus Islam advanced science. It wasn’t until the Renaissance that Christianity took back the torch of learning, science and civilization. So change 1500 to about 700 years and you wouldn’t be wrong.
Second, Europe could resist Islamic immigration, but it’s not intuitive that this would change much. The European birth rates are the real problem. Without those picking up, Europe would fall one way or the other. Same with us.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:54 am to Penrod
While you are historically correct, Islam has definitely veered into massive regression with respect to knowledge and innovation in the past 400-500 years.
And, has shown no desire to change.
And, has shown no desire to change.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:55 am to Mike da Tigah
Become familiar with the term “useful idiot”.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:56 am to Penrod
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Islam kept a great deal of knowledge alive when Christianity had lost it, plus Islam advanced science. It wasn’t until the Renaissance that Christianity took back the torch of learning, science and civilization. So change 1500 to about 700 years and you wouldn’t be wrong
Catholic monasteries did this. It was never lost.
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 7:57 am
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:56 am to Penrod
I don't understand why people keep pushing the low birth rate as a bad thing. The world is woefully overpopulated. There's a reason why we're stuck eating GMOs and steroid chickens. A low birth rate is a much more humane way to bring the population back down to sustainable numbers, versus world war, disease, or famine.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:58 am to Penrod
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There are a number of errors in your post, even though the central idea is right, imo.
First, your statement that Islam has contributed zero in 1500 years is woefully incorrect. Islam kept a great deal of knowledge alive when Christianity had lost it, plus Islam advanced science. It wasn’t until the Renaissance that Christianity took back the torch of learning, science and civilization. So change 1500 to about 700 years and you wouldn’t be wrong.
Second, Europe could resist Islamic immigration, but it’s not intuitive that this would change much. The European birth rates are the real problem. Without those picking up, Europe would fall one way or the other. Same with us.
In quality of life, it’s an enormous nosedive for humanity everywhere that false religion is dominant and in practice in government. It is lethal to anyone who does not adhere to its tenets, and given free reign in this world it will destroy the entire human species.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:24 am to Penrod
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Islam kept a great deal of knowledge alive when Christianity had lost it,
This is incorrect.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:32 am to Mike da Tigah
There may have been problems with some immigrants, but Europe is not taken by Islam. No Islamic governments or majority political control, so it’s laughable to bring up Iran and Lebanon.
More and more posts these days simply can’t be responded to seriously…
More and more posts these days simply can’t be responded to seriously…
Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:35 am to Mike da Tigah
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conquest, oppression, and destruction
These are the exact reasons that they were brought to the West. Not that I have any love for Islam, but there's another group that benefits from keeping Christians and Muslims fighting, so they throw as much gasoline on that fire as possible.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:37 am to Mike da Tigah
Sometimes the most obvious answers are the ones hardest to accept. People see Third World shithole countries and automatically assume were it not for us meddling capitalist pigs, everybody would be living in splendor & peace.
Often the opposite is true.
Sadly, these people are easily brainwashed. Never mind, the countless number of refugees from actual communist countries, Islamic theocratic states, who have fled to freedom like the United States. They get ignored outright just as our media ignores what is happening in Iran.
The militant left treat defectors from there ranks in much the very same way as people trying to denounce Islam or leave a cult.
Often the opposite is true.
Sadly, these people are easily brainwashed. Never mind, the countless number of refugees from actual communist countries, Islamic theocratic states, who have fled to freedom like the United States. They get ignored outright just as our media ignores what is happening in Iran.
The militant left treat defectors from there ranks in much the very same way as people trying to denounce Islam or leave a cult.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:39 am to EasterEgg
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The world is woefully overpopulated.
The island of Oahu could fit the population of 12 Earths standing shoulder to shoulder.
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There's a reason why we're stuck eating GMOs and steroid chickens.
Because it's bigger and cheaper. We're not stuck, i don't feed it to my family.
You are confusing the corporatization of agriculture in America with overpopulation.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:34 am to udtiger
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Catholic monasteries did this. It was never lost.
Islam advanced science most notably in mathematics and astronomy. The baton of advanced civilization was carried by Islam for a few hundred years. Neither of us can prove what would have happened had Islam not done so, but it surely would have been worse.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:37 am to Mike da Tigah
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given free reign in this world it will destroy the entire human species.
Islam? That’s a shocking charge. Almost everywhere in the world (India excepted) that is not Islamic, the population is shrinking. It is exploding everywhere Islam rules. It’s hard to understand how an argument can even be attempted that Islam would destroy humanity. All signs are that it is western woke ideology that is destroying humanity.
You are on much firmer ground with your first sentence that Islam is a quality of life bummer.
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 9:39 am
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:40 am to Mike da Tigah
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What is the fascination with pushing your own self destruct button?
Nihilism creates a vacuum
Posted on 1/16/26 at 11:37 am to Penrod
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Islam advanced science most notably in mathematics and astronomy. The baton of advanced civilization was carried by Islam for a few hundred years. Neither of us can prove what would have happened had Islam not done so, but it surely would have been worse
The people who advanced science and math under the caliphate were primarily not the muslims. They were the conquered who were forced to convert. The pillaging muslims didn't contribute much at all.
Many of the scholars during the Dark Ages were from Persia, Central Asia, and Turkey, meaning they were not the Arabs running around spreading Islam with a sword. At best, you can give them credit for not killing all the scientists.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:54 pm to Mike da Tigah
Gosh... I wouldn't want to be considered "racist," or "islamophobic," or anything. That would be terrible.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:10 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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The island of Oahu could fit the population of 12 Earths standing shoulder to shoulder.
That may be true but the problem isn't living space - it's the amount of land and resources needed to support the population. And I'm also agreeing with you that I don't think "overpopulation" is necessarily something to be worried with - I'm only pointing out that population support is so much more than just the amount of physical living space...
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:13 pm to Penrod
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Islam advanced science most notably in mathematics and astronomy. The baton of advanced civilization was carried by Islam for a few hun
Which planet?
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