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re: Brooksy back to the PGA Tour, applies to be reinstated
Posted on 1/12/26 at 9:57 pm to Dawgsontop34
Posted on 1/12/26 at 9:57 pm to Dawgsontop34
$5M “penalty” to charity & the “lost equity” after getting 9 figures from LIV is a joke of a penalty.
Pride is going to have to decide if the tour is dumb as hell or if it a job well done. We know what he will say bc the Tour is doing great, they can do no wrong!
Pride is going to have to decide if the tour is dumb as hell or if it a job well done. We know what he will say bc the Tour is doing great, they can do no wrong!
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 10:19 pm to JimTiger72
If I were Brooks, I'll tell the PGA tour to F off. Go play the DP world tour for a year and come back in a year.
Posted on 1/12/26 at 10:27 pm to ell_13
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He took advantage of the situation and looks smart.
Smart? Who are we talking about again?
Posted on 1/12/26 at 10:57 pm to JimTiger72
2025 Waste Management Phoenix Open Winner signs with LIV Golf will play on 4 Aces. He joins DJ and Thomas Pieters and their new Under Amour Sponsorship. #57 in the World.
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Posted on 1/12/26 at 11:00 pm to MrLSU
Posted on 1/13/26 at 8:14 am to JimTiger72
Do you guys not realize how much equity he's losing? He's giving up 5 years of payouts in the player equity program and any fed ex cup bonus in 2026.
I've seen estimates that suggest his share in all this could be worth $50-100 million. That's a pretty massive penalty. Less than his live signing bonus, but definitely substantial.
I've seen estimates that suggest his share in all this could be worth $50-100 million. That's a pretty massive penalty. Less than his live signing bonus, but definitely substantial.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 8:43 am to rolltide32
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That's a pretty massive penalty.
Except it’s not.
- Gets 9 figures for signing with LIV
- but gets “penalized” by not getting 9 figures in equity from PGA Tour… for 5 years.
…so it’s a wash, he still has 9 figures in the bank, but I guess he doesn’t have 200 mil? He already made his money, he’ll be fine
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:12 am to JimTiger72
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Except it’s not.
- Gets 9 figures for signing with LIV
- but gets “penalized” by not getting 9 figures in equity from PGA Tour… for 5 years.
…so it’s a wash, he still has 9 figures in the bank, but I guess he doesn’t have 200 mil? He already made his money, he’ll be fine
It's being reported as a penalty but it's not.
Keeping him out of the equity program for 5 years is a way to equalize his past LIV earnings with current PGA Tour earnings. That way, players who come back would not enjoy a financial benefit for joining LIV over the guys who stayed. It's the only way the PGAT players would ever let LIV guys back on tour. That issue I would guess is the biggest issue in any potential PGAT-LIV agreement in the future.
Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:47 am to JimTiger72
Marco Penge and Si Woo reportedly turned down 8 figure offers to join LIV in order to stay on the PGA tour.
That means that either (I) the word on the street is the competitive product is so bad that some guys are willing to turn down $10m to not play there, (II) part of the 8 figure offer is equity take in the LIV teams which guys are starting to realize is worthless or (III) the PGA equity thing is real enough that guys are thinking the money will be more or less a wash down the road.
Probably some combination of the three. But regardless I think a big reason LIV has had so much trouble poaching established PGA players the past couple of years is the establishment of the equity program. The players at least seem to think it’s pretty valuable.
That means that either (I) the word on the street is the competitive product is so bad that some guys are willing to turn down $10m to not play there, (II) part of the 8 figure offer is equity take in the LIV teams which guys are starting to realize is worthless or (III) the PGA equity thing is real enough that guys are thinking the money will be more or less a wash down the road.
Probably some combination of the three. But regardless I think a big reason LIV has had so much trouble poaching established PGA players the past couple of years is the establishment of the equity program. The players at least seem to think it’s pretty valuable.
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 9:55 am to tigerfan88
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Marco Penge and Si Woo reportedly turned down 8 figure offers to join LIV in order to stay on the PGA tour.
Yeah LIV whiffed on Marco Penge, Si Woo, Sungjae Im, Max Greyserman, Akshay Bhatia this offseason
Sounds like they got Laurie Canter, Thomas Detry, Victor Perez, Elvis Smylie, & Ben An. All international guys. I think Phil still needs to add someone on his team
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 10:57 am to JimTiger72
According to rumors, it appears Ben An might be the new captain of the LIV Team with Kevin Na & Jinichiro Kozuma leaving. Their 2 replacements would be Minkyu Kim & Younghan Song
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 11:36 am to JimTiger72
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Their 2 replacements would be Minkyu Kim & Younghan Song
Man, better get my LIV New Orleans tickets now before they sell out...
Posted on 1/13/26 at 12:13 pm to rolltide32
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I've seen estimates that suggest his share in all this could be worth $50-100 million. That's a pretty massive penalty. Less than his live signing bonus, but definitely substantial.
It was estimated his LIV contract was for $120 million and left around $10 million of that when he got out of his contract early. He also won $45 million on LIV in tour earnings. So he earned in the ballpark of $150 million on LIV in 3 years. He might have earned a third of that playing well on the PGA for 3 years, but remember, he was hurt and struggling when he left the Tour. So he's being "penalized" $50-100 million in potential future equity stakes but that's more than offset, at worst a wash, at what he made on LIV.
Honestly, the bullshite part about all of this is that the PGA is only carving out exceptions to entice a select few players. If I'm someone like Wesley Bryan, who is serving a suspension for a 9 hole youtube event, while guys who were the face of that league for several years have been offered a special exemption, I'm suing the Tour and I probably win that lawsuit.
This post was edited on 1/13/26 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 1/13/26 at 12:17 pm to lsufball19
Wouldn’t his initial Equity hit have been roughly 50 million from the Tour in 2025?
That was the reported number Rory got for 2025, and Brooks would likely be that tier with his 5 majors
So if you want to compare potential earnings “lost or made” that amount lost from 2025 should also be included. But I truly think all the players board did was sit down with Kopeka and come up with a strategy to make his LIV earnings a “wash out” verses them like you alluded to
The mules get fricked like always but the top guys can all feel like they came out even. But like you say I don’t know how the mule guys that were banned don’t have an incredibly easy lawsuit on their hands
That was the reported number Rory got for 2025, and Brooks would likely be that tier with his 5 majors
So if you want to compare potential earnings “lost or made” that amount lost from 2025 should also be included. But I truly think all the players board did was sit down with Kopeka and come up with a strategy to make his LIV earnings a “wash out” verses them like you alluded to
The mules get fricked like always but the top guys can all feel like they came out even. But like you say I don’t know how the mule guys that were banned don’t have an incredibly easy lawsuit on their hands
This post was edited on 1/13/26 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 1/13/26 at 12:24 pm to lsupride87
That’s why they made it performance based and broader than just Brooks. I don’t think they really expect the other three to jump.
But there’s plenty of opportunities that you only get if you have prior past achievements. Exemptions to events if you’ve won majors. Tour status for years if you win an event. FedEx cup money if you play well.
By tying it to sporting accomplishments I think they give themselves at least a colorable defense to anti-trade type accusations
But there’s plenty of opportunities that you only get if you have prior past achievements. Exemptions to events if you’ve won majors. Tour status for years if you win an event. FedEx cup money if you play well.
By tying it to sporting accomplishments I think they give themselves at least a colorable defense to anti-trade type accusations
Posted on 1/13/26 at 1:15 pm to tigerfan88
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By tying it to sporting accomplishments I think they give themselves at least a colorable defense to anti-trade type accusations
it's a defense but not a great one when when they pretty clearly and intentionally did it to target specific players (Cam, Bryson, Rahm, and Koepka) and, in one case, intentionally to eliminate another (Phil). For instance, generally speaking, winning a major gets you fully exempt status on the PGA Tour for 5 years, not 3. Then you have Phil's lifetime exemption based on 20 career wins. Phil, by his career wins and winning the PGA in 2021, would have otherwise been fully eligible to play on the PGA Tour this year. But, because the Tour obviously isn't going to do anything to let Phil back. But they did want to try to lure Cam Smith back. So they make it three years, not 5 like the normal rules state, 3. It's pretty obvious what their goals are here. They want the biggest cash cows currently on LIV back on the PGA to kill LIV.
It's an argument they'd make sure, I just don't think it's a great one. There are plenty of dudes who either no longer play on the LIV Tour or never did serving suspensions that would otherwise have some sort of status to play PGA events. That's bullshite regardless of how you try to argue it. The PGA had rules and are now selectively choosing how to apply them differently to different players based on different players' perceived values to the Tour. That's the same type of shite that got the NCAA in trouble with the Courts with the transfer rules and hardship waivers which led to lawsuits and ultimately led to no one having to sit out anymore if they transfer.
This post was edited on 1/13/26 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 1/13/26 at 1:20 pm to lsufball19
The truth is the biggest change and maybe only change LIV did for professional golf was move the world of pro golf from an entity that showed no favoritism and was all about merit to an organization that is all about favoritism that shrinks its overall net of casting for great golfers
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Posted on 1/13/26 at 2:32 pm to MrLSU
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#57 in the World.
Massive loss
Posted on 1/13/26 at 2:35 pm to lsufball19
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it's a defense but not a great one when when they pretty clearly and intentionally did it to target specific players (Cam, Bryson, Rahm, and Koepka) and, in one case, intentionally to eliminate another (Phil). For instance, generally speaking, winning a major gets you fully exempt status on the PGA Tour for 5 years, not 3. Then you have Phil's lifetime exemption based on 20 career wins. Phil, by his career wins and winning the PGA in 2021, would have otherwise been fully eligible to play on the PGA Tour this year. But, because the Tour obviously isn't going to do anything to let Phil back. But they did want to try to lure Cam Smith back. So they make it three years, not 5 like the normal rules state, 3. It's pretty obvious what their goals are here. They want the biggest cash cows currently on LIV back on the PGA to kill LIV.
They can easily argue that 2022 was used because that was the first year that LIV held tournaments. It also conveniently leaves out Phil.
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