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re: As employees, athletes should have to adhere by same rules as other employees
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:38 pm to liquid rabbit
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:38 pm to liquid rabbit
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The university/athletic dept. in this instance is the "boss." If athlete fails to attend practice or class or a game, as required by the boss, he should be subject to fine, docked pay or other disciplinary measure. Athletes shouldn't have free rein to do as they please with no repercussions.
There should be strict rules for performance of duties as with other employees. Until these rules are formalized, it's going to be chaos. When the employees are in charge of the company, it's doomed to fail.
Everyone is free to put any conditions, provisions, terms, requirements, clauses, and provisions they see fit in these contracts. Getting someone to agree to those is a different matter.
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:44 pm to liquid rabbit
They could be statutory employees. Independent contractors that have certain deductions made.
But let’s cut the sh t. They should all be under contract. This current situation is unsustainable on many levels.
But let’s cut the sh t. They should all be under contract. This current situation is unsustainable on many levels.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:49 pm to Tifway419
Didnt LSU opt in for revenue sharing? It’s capped at $20.5 million across the athletic dept with 75% of that going to football. Those payments are coming directly from the school and is totally different from NIL.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:50 pm to ClintonTigerMS
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they are employees of the boosters,
So tell me how that process works. The agent talks to the boosters and tells them what the athlete wants? Or does Kiffen say, hey, boosters, we need this kid and this is his price and you need to pay it.
So who does the negotiations with the agent? The whole process seems sketchy at best.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:51 pm to liquid rabbit
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So tell me how that process works. The agent talks to the boosters and tells them what the athlete wants? Or does Kiffen say, hey, boosters, we need this kid and this is his price and you need to pay it. So who does the negotiations with the agent? The whole process seems sketchy at best.
It should all be mostly facilitated through Bayou Traditions, LSU’s collective.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:21 pm to Hat Tricks
Yep, you’re right. I’m stumped on how those players receiving revenue share directly from LSU wouldn’t be considered employees.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:22 pm to liquid rabbit
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If athlete fails to attend practice or class or a game, ... he should be subject to fine, docked pay or other disciplinary measure. Athletes shouldn't have free rein to do as they please with no repercussions.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:33 pm to liquid rabbit
We all know that Kiffin calls the shots as to who the boosters pay.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:39 pm to Nutriaitch
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the courts clearly stated that the athletes are NOT employees.
The NCAA has been fighting (on the schools’ behalf) to make sure the players aren’t classified as employees for decades. The courts aren’t keeping the schools from treating players as employees; the schools are.
In an era where schools are spending $20+ million of direct athletic department funds on rosters anyway, it might be time for them to re-evaluate that strategy. I suspect the biggest hurdle is that acknowledging them as employees will require them to collectively bargain to maintain a cap. But it seems like we are headed in that direction regardless at this point.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:46 pm to liquid rabbit
Cue up Jim Mora and that basketball player talking about "practice and playoffs".
Are we talking about CLASS, you said class, we talking about going to class, CLASS, is that what you are saying, we going to class, is that what you said.
:lol: :lol:
Are we talking about CLASS, you said class, we talking about going to class, CLASS, is that what you are saying, we going to class, is that what you said.
:lol: :lol:
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:12 pm to liquid rabbit
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If athlete fails to attend practice or class or a game, as required by the boss, he should be subject to fine, docked pay or other disciplinary measure.
They have always been subject ot disciplinary measures for any of those. But always at the discretion of the head coach, unless it was something that violated NCAA rules. Often, the coach would look the other way for top-end athletes.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:46 pm to liquid rabbit
Not employees
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:29 pm to liquid rabbit
But they aren't. And they won't be.
What has to happen is a collective bargaining agreement, then there can be rules as to transferring, salary cap, etc. No doub that is coming down the road.
The TTU Booster said as much...."Let's spend crazy while we can...."
What has to happen is a collective bargaining agreement, then there can be rules as to transferring, salary cap, etc. No doub that is coming down the road.
The TTU Booster said as much...."Let's spend crazy while we can...."
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:32 pm to liquid rabbit
Unfortunately they aren't employed by anyone. Yes they are on the team but LSU isn't paying them. They are pretty much donated their money. That's why there needs to be contracts. If they have agents and getting paid millions, then contracts with the athletic department need to be in place.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 5:01 pm to liquid rabbit
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I'm curious to know if taxes are being withheld from their paychecks
Did the state of Louisiana pass a bill that would exempt NIL athletes from state taxes? I could be mistaken but I remember that a state was trying to pass a bill of this nature.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 5:14 pm to Honestabe1809
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What has to happen is a collective bargaining agreement, then there can be rules as to transferring, salary cap, etc. No doub that is coming down the road.
To have collective bargaining you have to have bargaining parties. That traditionally has been a union of some sort. If the players aren't "employees" (i.e. labor), the I'm not quite sure they can have a union. Plus, any union could not only include football and men's basketball players. It would have to include all student athletes (under Title IX). Given football and basketball players are the only ones with any real market value, I doubt they would agree to be lumped in with tennis players.
Under the current environment the players don't WANT a union. They don't want collective bargaining. The system greatly benefits them because the majority of the money they are being paid is NOT coming from the schools. Why would they want to put guardrails on the open market? The only way to force them to do so would be the threat of there being no market. That would mean, in essence, no more college sports. That's probably eventually going to happen with smaller programs. But the major conferences and member schools are making FAR too much money to end their programs.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 5:36 pm to MisterMagoo
Self employed
What’s worse the athletes earning millions or the wanna be influencers at the sororities?
What’s worse the athletes earning millions or the wanna be influencers at the sororities?
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 1/6/26 at 5:37 pm to ProjectP2294
Not only benefits, but employees are subject to and protected by state and federal labor laws, OSHA guideline, etc. Overtime laws, working conditions and even labor Unions would come in to play. You do not want college football players to be considered employees.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 6:01 pm to liquid rabbit
Buddy, it's time for us to go have a beer together and work this shite out. It's becoming our job to save college sports. 
Posted on 1/6/26 at 6:24 pm to nealnan8
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Not only benefits, but employees are subject to and protected by state and federal labor laws, OSHA guideline, etc. Overtime laws, working conditions and even labor Unions would come in to play. You do not want college football players to be considered employees.
And Workers’ Comp. Before NIL, some states sued to make colleges treat athletes as employees. The schools fought it because they did not want to be liable for workers comp. The schools won and since NIL, the employee talk has someone died down but the Supreme Court said in the NIL ruling that the players employment status was not part of the filings so they would not address it, but hinted that if they ever were to file a suit, they would probably lean to treating as employees. I don’t know if players would try to claim that anymore because under the current setup, they have more advantages now. Unless the suits would come from players in minor sports.
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