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Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:40 pm to LSU82BILL
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they have a moral obligation to pay their employees their fair value
It’s a part time job, the “fair value” is the amount value a given worker produces for the business. Rookie leagues and low A do not generate much revenue. Attendance is probably less than 2000 per game for 120 or so games a year. The minors are about developing players, if they make the majors they get paid. They do get more as they move up thru the minors.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:41 pm to lsunatchamp
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The average player salary for a minor league player in 2018 was: A: $6,000 AA: $9,350 AAA: $15,000
It’s not 2018 anymore. New CBA signed this year pays $26.2K in Low-A, $27.3K in High A and over $30K in AA.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:42 pm to lsunatchamp
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Minimum salary for a AAA ball player is $35,000. Lowest is $19,800 in Single-A.
Right, but that’s salary, not total compensation. MLB also pays for their housing (which probably includes all utilities). They also receive free healthcare, tuition assistance, meals and per diem during the season.
What expenses does that leave? Beer money? The rest should be toward my financial future.
If my first job out of college paid for all that AND they paid me to play a fricking lawn game I played as a kid? AND my performance was rewarded progressively if I outperformed my peers in this lawn game? Sign me up. All day, every day. shite if I had the talent I would do it right now.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:47 pm to Wichita Co Tiger
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I bet he wouldn’t trade this year for anything
Gavin Dugas could show up at my office selling cumberbunds and I would buy them. That dude made money this season; it’s just a question of when he cashes in.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:48 pm to ell_13
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Every player the nationals took from 6-10 signed for $20k. He wasn’t “low-balled” They did what they had to do to sign the rest of the class.
Every senior is low-balled. Just because it’s common practice doesn’t make it not low-balling.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:50 pm to lsunatchamp
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. I would expect $50-$80k? At least enough to live on. The players could probably sue under the minimum wage laws it's so low
Look Bernie Sanders first of all it’s a part time job, they play between 120-150 or so games depending on the level. The current minimum wage is comes out to roughly 15,000 and most are making for than that for again, part time work. They are free to work other jobs in the off season and keep in mind, these are kids, chasing a dream, in a few years they either make it or the don’t and get other jobs, not a job you work for 40 years to raise a family playing rookie league ball
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:51 pm to LSU82BILL
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No. But, like any other business entity, they have a moral obligation to pay their employees their fair value.
In most markets, fair value is the best offer someone is willing to pay. Your alternative is to seek the best offer someone else is willing to pay.
Why do you call that a moral obligation? Fair value is not determined by morals. It’s determined by what someone determines your labor to be worth and your decision as to whether or not that assessed value is worth accepting as a wage rate.
Do you dye your hair blue and wave signs at protests or do you have a reasonable response to explain why what I have posted is wrong that you would like to share?
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:51 pm to ell_13
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Crews should of went to bat for him
have*
There is more wrong with that sentence than of/have. “Crews should have gone to bat for him.” Is what the guy meant.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:53 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Look Bernie Sanders
Swing and a miss. Voted for Trump. Anything to the left of Alex Jones isn't Bernie Sanders. Some people are moderates
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:00 pm to LSU82BILL
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they have a moral obligation to pay their employees their fair value
Their fair value is their signing bonus.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:01 pm to LSUSkip
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There should be a minimum that you have to invest into someone that ypu draft, and it should be more than the max an undrafted player can get.
Why?
The player is worth what an organization is willing to pay, whether it be 20mil or 20k. Just because an LSU player got what y’all think is short changed doesn’t mean we have to change the whole structure of the MLB draft, if dugas was currently worth more than $20k currently for an MLB organization, he would’ve gotten it, plain and simple.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:04 pm to Tigerfan1274
He knew he wasn’t going to get any money. This isn’t a shock to him
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:04 pm to lsunatchamp
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do. I would expect $50-$80k? At least enough to live on. The players could probably sue under the minimum wage laws it's so low
Its a signing bonus. No one is forcing him to accept it
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:06 pm to lsunatchamp
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Anything to the left of Alex Jones isn't Bernie Sanders. Some people are moderates
Even bigger swing and a miss. And Jones was a big MAGA guy
However your comments is another example how similar the Trumpy crowd’s economics are to the Sanders/Warren wing of the Democratic Party. Instead of focusing on the quip you should read the substantive part of the post. To help you out, playing 5-6 months of rookie or Single A does not generate revenue to pay a “living wage” let alone 50000 (the equivalent of 100,000 for 12 months)
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:09 pm to Willie Stroker
Pay attention idiots. Every player has different circumstances in their life that allows them to follow their dreams and keep playing, or they get kicked into the real world for the 9-5. His "circumstances" allow him to follow his dream. $20,000, $2,000 or $200,000, he's going for it and has a family that's 100% in.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:18 pm to josh336
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No one is forcing him to accept it
In a way they are though. It's either sign the low-ball offer from one team or you can't play baseball anymore. I get it, he could go get a 9-5, but everyone on this board knows he won't, and so does the MLB. Kinda fricked up. If he was able to see what another team would offer because of the offer under slot, I'd bet he would get a lot more
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:19 pm to SmoothBox
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The player is worth what an organization is willing to pay
Wrong. The player is an employee. Employees are worth what OTHER organizations are willing to pay in a fair market system
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:21 pm to Ironhead985
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Wait.. is this the sign bonus or how much the contract is worth? I’m sorry, guys. I don’t understand this part of it.
Signing bonus.
He will get another 30ish k in salary for A ball. And the minimum goes up at every level.
This post was edited on 7/13/23 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:24 pm to Tigerfan1274
20k...thats chump change in the world of NILs
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