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re: Matt McMahon is not gonna make it
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:04 am to In The Know
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:04 am to In The Know
Hire a fellow named William Wade. Just saying.
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:07 am to ChestRockwell
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2 solid teams with WW
Actually 4 were NCAA tournament teams, if you count the aborted pandemic year whose team would have surely gone to the tourney. And Wade was not permitted to coach either the 2019 or 2022 tourney teams-- frick SW.
I bear no ill will towards McMahon, but he's just not an SEC calibre coach. The comparison to Hallman is apt-- I visualize a tailspin after the A&M loss, a game any decent LSU coach would have won.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 7:35 am
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:10 am to In The Know
Your thread title makes it seem like hes fricking dying or something.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:24 am to UnoMe
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Well let the season play out and if he doesn’t win he will be replaced.
But calling for a coach that won 90% of his game is ridiculous.
Hell he might not win another game or he might win them all. It’s Just funny “The Rant” wants him replaced right now. But I’ve never been a fire a coach mid-season unless there’s off the field/court stuff going on.
Personally, I don't think a midseason firing accomplishes much either.
But, again, it's not like the lack of confidence after an SEC loss is unfounded. In his first season he went 11-1 to start...then 3-18 once the SEC games started. Last year he stared 11-2...then went 3-16 the rest of the way. Given the past history, no one is overly impressed with a 12-1 start because they've seen it, multiple times, lead to nothing. So the thought is not "Well, he lost the first SEC game of the season. But he'll bounce back." It's a sense of "here we go again".
That may not happen again and there are reasons to believe this particular team is better than the previous ones. And in isolation firing a 12-2 coach seems ridiculous. But when a coach has a less than .300 winning % vs. major conf. opponents, more particularly, a ~.250 winning % vs. SEC opponents, he doesn't really get the benefit of the doubt after a loss that things will be different this time.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 7:39 am
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:50 am to Alt26
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ersonally, I don't think a midseason firing accomplishes much either.
I don't either and I honestly hope it does not come to that - but he really can't miss the tournament again - there's just no defending him again. Every other team in the SEC has made a tournament in his time here but us.
One thing struck me as I read the game article in the Advocate.
The Advocate beat writer is someone by the name of Toyloy Brown. To my knowledge he is the only beat writer dedicated to LSU men's basketball for any media outlet in the Greater Baton Rouge area - please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm not sure if he travels with the team, but he does know basketball I'll give him that...but he's not really a reporter. he's not going to dig for stories, call and ask CMM or the AD the questions we might want them to, but he does go to press conferences and writes game stories.
And in the game story following A&M he mentioned that CMM told the ESPN sideline reporter about Thomas's injury.
And it dawned on me again the state of our program where to find out any news about Thomas's injury we need to rely on the ESPN game broadcast to get that news.
The interest level and coverage is so minimal, that's where we are. That's a bit telling.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:03 am to kc8876
Actually, they are. Clearly you don't watch.
You should probably take your own advice. In years past, I'd say agreed, they aren't great. This year...not the case.
You should probably take your own advice. In years past, I'd say agreed, they aren't great. This year...not the case.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:08 am to Open Your Eyes
You clowns never cease to amaze me. Is MM throwing up bricks, and missing wide open shots? No. Is MM shooting a putrid 16-60 from the field? No. Players make a difference, too pal. Last 20 years? There you go? Typical LSU idiot fan, who is still dancing to the "good old days." It won't happen, but LSU basketball needs a cleanse with people around the basketball program who make personnel decisions, that are above the coaching staff. Start with that. Not going to name names, but figure it out. The program isn't a selling point right now, and hasn't been for a long time. The HS talent in LA is below average, and the handful of ones who are, they sure as shite aint gonna play at LSU. The program hasn't made a commitment to a winning product in quite some time..
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:10 am to Jauquismos
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Cut ur losses dude has ALWAYS been in over his head. It’s unfortunate but it’s reality.
And if you are overwhelmed at LSU basketball, you are super overwhelmed. It's not like he was brought in to take over a Duke, Kentucky, or Kansas lol
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:14 am to ChestRockwell
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It won't happen, but LSU basketball needs a cleanse with people around the basketball program who make personnel decisions, that are above the coaching staff.
The HC IS the person in the basketball program who makes the personnel decisions. No one is stopping him from recruiting whoever he wants. You spout off this 20 year nonsense, yet somehow ignore the previous HC was able to sign multiple players who are currently in the NBA or played in the NBA for a year or two after they left LSU. Did LSU have some unknown GM who was recruiting/signing all of the players from 2017-2022?
But even go back before 2017. LSU signed several highly recruited players (Martin, Mickey, Simmons, Blakeney). Was there a GM signing those guys too? Did LSU have a "commitment to try to win" between 2014 - 2022, only to then pull the rug out from under McMahon and complete abandon it?
McMahon is Trent Johnson...only without the ready-made roster in year 1. Neither wanted to get deeply involved in recruiting. Neither wanted to forge the relationships necessary to raise the money to sign players. Neither wanted to do much to create an atmosphere of interest/excitement in the program. Yet, neither had the coaching chops to overcome their lack of desire to do the other things necessary to have a great program. That's why it's not a coincidence that 4 of the 5 worst seasons since 2008 have come under McMahon and Johnson.
It's not an issue of LSU lacking a desire to have a good basketball program. Hell, on the women's side they were committed enough to hire a HOF coach. It's simply that in the last 20 years LSU has hired two turds with zero enthusiasm who are only, at best, average in-game coaches who don't want to recruit or fundraise.
In every other sport at LSU when the results are insufficient it's at the feet of the HC where the blame is laid...except men's basketball where, apparently, its EVERYONE else's fault except the HC.
shite! Maybe that makes the LSU job one of the most desirable in the country. If you are able to win at a consistent level you are a hero. And if you constantly lose its not your fault
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:21 am to ChestRockwell
Louisiana is top 3-5 in NBA players per capita and I think Arkansas just took over the number 1 spot. You have Texas and Mississippi who are good producers of talent, one in volume one per capita all next door so this idiotic assumption that we’re in some barren wasteland of talent is misinformed.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:31 am to ChestRockwell
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You clowns never cease to amaze me. Is MM throwing up bricks, and missing wide open shots? No. Is MM shooting a putrid 16-60 from the field? No. Players make a difference, too pal. Last 20 years? There you go? Typical LSU idiot fan, who is still dancing to the "good old days." It won't happen, but LSU basketball needs a cleanse with people around the basketball program who make personnel decisions, that are above the coaching staff. Start with that. Not going to name names, but figure it out. The program isn't a selling point right now, and hasn't been for a long time. The HS talent in LA is below average, and the handful of ones who are, they sure as shite aint gonna play at LSU. The program hasn't made a commitment to a winning product in quite some time..
That’s a big block of short bus, and none of it addresses any of those questions you are too stupid to answer. Try again. I’ll even repost them for you so it’s easier for you to board that bus:
Which sec programs have rings besides kentucky, Florida and Arkansas?
The last 20 years is the timeline for relevance that you have arbitrarily set. What has Arkansas done in that time?
Alabama, Texas tech, and Iowa state are all programs you have deemed more successful than lsu in this thread. What rings do those programs have?
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:57 pm to Madking
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Louisiana is top 3-5 in NBA players per capita and I think Arkansas just took over the number 1 spot. You have Texas and Mississippi who are good producers of talent, one in volume one per capita all next door so this idiotic assumption that we’re in some barren wasteland of talent is misinformed.
Yep. You can draw a circle around Baton Rouge that is about a 5 hr radius in any direction and you'd have more than enough talent between Memphis, Jackson, Mobile, Houston, New Orleans, etc.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:04 pm to Weaver
it's Williams not William
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:00 pm to Alt26
Sometimes a perfectly good coach just can't establish a chemistry or rapport with his players at another school to make it work out. In that regard McMahon reminds me a lot of Tom Crean, who had immense success at Marquette in the early 2000's followed by immense success at Indiana. In 2018, he was hired by the Georgia Bulldogs and proceeded to coach through 4 miserable seasons before being fired, with a record very comparable to what McMahon will have if permitted to finish the season.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:49 pm to In The Know
should have fired him last year
Posted on 1/6/26 at 6:21 pm to In The Know
Prognosis isn’t looking good right now.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 6:39 pm to ellessuuuu
Well, the day we met our new president (from McNeese) we mentioned Will Wade and said “he would look good in purple and gold”.
I am not saying it means anything but he did say it.
I am not saying it means anything but he did say it.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:20 pm to JimTiger72
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I’ll take things that won’t happen for 1,000
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JimTiger72
Mr. Q4 himself with the scorching hot take as usual
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:21 pm to In The Know
Agreed. He’s not cutting it and frankly should have been fired at the end of the season last year.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:21 pm to Open Your Eyes
I hoped Jim was going to be right. A change is needed though.
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