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Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:33 pm to
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At some point, losses have to count for something.


If losses mattered then undefeated conference champion FSU would've been in last year. We'll see the same thing with a 12 team playoff, except now the "eye test" teams have 2 or 3 losses to play with before they're definitely out.
Posted by evil cockroach
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:37 pm to
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It does. Last night’s UGA/Bama game was entertaining, but means almost nothing in terms of what happens at the end of the year. It was a glorified exhibition basically.
this
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:37 pm to
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Why would Texas play Ewers/Arch against A&M if they're in the playoffs regardless of the outcome?


the people paying their NIL deals aren’t going to tolerate listening to Aggies become super obnoxious with a few Ws.

It might happen in a situation that LSU finds themselves in where Thanksgiving has been forced or even the conference championships.

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:40 pm to
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Did anyone feel like the Bama-UGA game was lessened?

Yes an unbelievable game that may have determined a national champion 15 years ago now may not mean anything more than who’s seeded higher in the playoffs
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:48 pm to
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Yes an unbelievable game that may have determined a national champion 15 years ago now may not mean anything more than who’s seeded higher in the playoffs


Yet you still admit the game was unbelievable. What exactly is the problem?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 1:52 pm to
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What exactly is the problem?

I explained the problem in the post you quoted.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 2:07 pm to
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Yes an unbelievable game that may have determined a national champion 15 years ago now may not mean anything more than who’s seeded higher in the playoffs


This argument ended in 2011 when Bama got a rematch.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 2:11 pm to
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Did anyone feel like the Bama-UGA game was lessened? Not only did it have the same cashet as usual, but UGA's remaining games become even more meaningful going forward.


I do. Both teams are a shoe in for a 12 team format. It was a fun game, but it’s objectively less impactful
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 2:25 pm to
That's not a problem if the quality of the game didn't suffer. It's simply a different result.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 2:42 pm to
Not at all!

Teams peak at different times.....1-2 loss teams still have something to play for! LSU is a prime example.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 2:42 pm to
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Top two teams with the highest win percentage goes to SECCG. H2H is the #1 tiebreaker


So? Neither of these teams will need the SECCG to get into the playoff so probably a benefit to not have to worry about playing it. You just proved the other side even more.
Posted by JamalMurry27
Tennessee Titans
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 2:57 pm to
if bama and georgia played in this slot during the bcs it would have been the same. loser still controls own destiny
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 3:03 pm to
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if bama and georgia played in this slot during the bcs it would have been the same. loser still controls own destiny



Yes, but there would have been no margin for error after that. One more loss and that's it, you were done. The pressure was much higher for the team that lost because they couldn't drop another one. If things play out just right, Georgia could finish the season 9-3 and still secure the final slot for the playoff.
Posted by JamalMurry27
Tennessee Titans
Member since May 2023
8260 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 3:04 pm to
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Georgia could finish the season 9-3
i highly doubt that unless one of them is GT and they win the sec
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33243 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 5:16 pm to
Not sure why you mentioned this game and then the playoffs in the same breath. The reason this game happened is because the SEC got rid of divisions. This could have happened without playoff expansion. And, it would have been way more important if only 2 or 4 teams had a chance to play for the Championship at the end of the season.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 6:39 pm to
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think we'll soon learn that the opposite is true. It creates MORE meaningful regular season games. Did anyone feel like the Bama-UGA game was lessened? Not only did it have the same cashet as usual, but UGA's remaining games become even more meaningful going forward.


A 4 game playoff absolutely cheapened the regular season.

But a 12 game playoff makes it so much better
Posted by Zendog
Santa Barbara
Member since Feb 2019
6629 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 6:39 pm to
wrong
Posted by AkronTiger
2025 NFL Survivor Champion
Member since May 2021
2790 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 6:41 pm to
Both can be true.

More games overall are meaningful, while the individual games themselves are less meaningful. Consider college basketball with a 64 team bracket. More games influence the post season, but the individual games in isolation aren’t particularly significant.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 6:45 pm
Posted by AkronTiger
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Member since May 2021
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 6:46 pm to
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A 4 game playoff absolutely cheapened the regular season. But a 12 game playoff makes it so much better


Not really

Peak college football is when every game is a must win, and that is cheapened with an expanded playoff.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 6:47 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 7:15 pm to
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Peak college football is when every game is a must win, and that is cheapened with an expanded playoff.


Disagree

Peak college football is when more teams have something to play for at the end of the regular season.

If for no other reason then it stops / delays the opt outs.
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