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re: Just a reminder, the game/scenario you just watched will be meaningless next year
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:22 pm to Jack Ruby
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:22 pm to Jack Ruby
the playoff expansion is fine, but conference championships as a game dont need to be played. You can crown a regular season “winner”’off of record and then tiebreakers
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 11:24 pm
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:23 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Who do they replace them with?
It’s impossible to say because the records won’t be the same with lots of teams playing in the same league.
I remember people hyping the 4 team playoff using prior BCS years that would’ve included schools like Boise State, and then when the 4 team playoff came around, it wasn’t anything like that.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:26 pm to Epic Cajun
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Who gets into the playoff, who gets a top 4 seed for a bye, who gets a 5-8 seed to host the first round. Games will definitely matter.
Is a bye going to be helpful when there’s nearly a month between games?
I’d be more bought in on the idea if they extended home field until the championship game.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:30 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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Is a bye going to be helpful when there’s nearly a month between games?
Yes. Play a top ranked team or advance. Which is “helpful?”
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:31 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Who do they replace them with?
ACC Champ
Big 12 Champ
2 G5 teams
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:33 pm to bad93ex
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B1G - 5 teams
SEC - 5 teams
ACC - 1 team
Pretty god damn sure they wouldn't allow that.
I'd be fine with it.
Kick out the G5 for Big12 to make it better.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:34 pm to kciDAtaE
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But I guarantee games in the last weekend of the year will matter to determine who gets into the playoffs.
Yep. A lot of those last weekend games will take on new importance.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:36 pm to BuckyCheese
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I'd be fine with it.
Kick out the G5 for Big12 to make it better.
Don't the networks have a contract with ACC, Big 12 or the Pac 2? I can't see them agreeing to being left out in the cold for the CFP.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:37 pm to slackster
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You act like the NFL doesn’t have this shite happen all the time, including teams playing 3 times a year, and doesn’t absolutely kill it in ratings.
I like CFB way better.
I paced around for the entirety of the UM/OSU game last week. I've done that for years. It won't have the same feel next year.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 12:05 am to kciDAtaE
Weirdly enough, the implosion of the Pac 12 might have just put either Washington State or Oregon State into the playoffs the next two years 
Here's who gets in, per the NCAA website:
Now, in case you missed it:
In case that isn't clear, the Pac 12 will exist as a conference, with Oregon State and Washington State. Since the Mountain West games don't count towards Mountain West standings, it's unclear if they would for the Pac 12, or if the conference champ is the winner of their game.
To make things more interesting, Oregon State is currently #20 in the latest Playoff Rankings.
Tulane is #22, Liberty is #24.
Next year you have:
SEC (8 teams ranked, including #1 UGA, and you're adding Texas and Oklahoma)
Big 10 (6 teams, including #2 Michigan, and you put Washington and Oregon in that group)
ACC (4 teams, #4 Fla State being the leader there)
Big 12 (3 teams, with #15 Arizona now the highest ranked team)
Pac 12 (#20 Oregon State)
AAC (#22 Tulane)
*C-USA (#24 Liberty)
If you look at this, it gets pretty clear- The Big 10 and SEC will get 3, maybe 4 teams apiece. That depends on if the Big 12 or ACC can get a second team in, currently not the case. You will see one true Cinderella (AAC or CUSA most likely), and either Washington State or Oregon State, as long as they can handle a Mountain West lineup.
Here's who gets in, per the NCAA website:
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The field of 12 teams will be comprised of the six conference champions ranked highest by the selection committee (no minimum ranking requirement), plus the six highest-ranked other teams. The ranking of the teams will continue to be done by a selection committee whose size, composition, and method of selection will remain substantially unchanged from the current arrangement. The four highest-ranked conference champions will be seeded one through four and each will receive a first-round bye. The other eight teams will play in the first round with the higher seeds hosting the lower seeds either on campus or at other sites designated by the higher-seeded institution.
Now, in case you missed it:
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Oregon State, Washington State and the Mountain West announced a football scheduling agreement Friday for the 2024 season that gives the two remaining Pac-12 schools six opponents each and positions them to operate as a two-team conference for at least a year.
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The Mountain West will play a seven-game conference schedule, and the games against Oregon State and Washington State will not count against the league standings.
In case that isn't clear, the Pac 12 will exist as a conference, with Oregon State and Washington State. Since the Mountain West games don't count towards Mountain West standings, it's unclear if they would for the Pac 12, or if the conference champ is the winner of their game.
To make things more interesting, Oregon State is currently #20 in the latest Playoff Rankings.
Tulane is #22, Liberty is #24.
Next year you have:
SEC (8 teams ranked, including #1 UGA, and you're adding Texas and Oklahoma)
Big 10 (6 teams, including #2 Michigan, and you put Washington and Oregon in that group)
ACC (4 teams, #4 Fla State being the leader there)
Big 12 (3 teams, with #15 Arizona now the highest ranked team)
Pac 12 (#20 Oregon State)
AAC (#22 Tulane)
*C-USA (#24 Liberty)
If you look at this, it gets pretty clear- The Big 10 and SEC will get 3, maybe 4 teams apiece. That depends on if the Big 12 or ACC can get a second team in, currently not the case. You will see one true Cinderella (AAC or CUSA most likely), and either Washington State or Oregon State, as long as they can handle a Mountain West lineup.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 12:08 am to kciDAtaE
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Yes. Play a top ranked team or advance. Which is “helpful?”
Ohio State would line up at home against Ole Miss and beat them by 3 scores then go to a neutral site next round. That renders The Game far less important.
All rounds should be at home field until the championship. Every other sport does it that way except for March Madness which is usually played in front of less than 50% full arenas before the Elite 8.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 12:14 am to TomRollTideRitter
quote:is this accurate? I want to say it’s not based off of watching a ton of March madness but I have no concrete data to back my thoughts up.
which is usually played in front of less than 50% full arenas before the Elite 8.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 12:18 am to slackster
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You act like the NFL doesn’t have this shite happen all the time, including teams playing 3 times a year, and doesn’t absolutely kill it in ratings.
People watch the NFL because they care about gambling.
People watched college football because they were alumni from the school or supported the state school.
ESPN realized there is more money in college football if 15 “Joeys from Queens” watches it like they watches college like he watches the NFL, along with Joe Bob from Knoxville and Joe the XII from Oxford. Having the big gambling event at the end of the season will do that.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 12:29 am to Pedro
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which is usually played in front of less than 50% full arenas before the Elite 8.
is this accurate? I want to say it’s not based off of watching a ton of March madness but I have no concrete data to back my thoughts up.
You get the occasional UNC and/or Duke playing somewhere in North Carolina, which is a sellout. You're gonna get a few more where high seeds play close to home, again those are full.
The rest, you hope those team's fans hang around for the other session.
Think of it this way: say LSU makes the tourney (I know, we won't). We like to say we travel well, but if we're a 10 or 11 seed in Dayton or Salt Lake City, you'd be lucky if we sent 1k fans. Unless we're playing a local team or a very high seed, the other team probably sends about the same. The rest of the crowd is going to be carryover from the other game, and a few locals who want to get the experience of going to March Madness.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 1:42 am to Jack Ruby
Agree. The truth is 9/10 seasons the top 2 teams is abundantly clear, and if there is a dispute it’s a 3 team dispute.
This year is as close to the exception as they come, and we don’t need anymore games to know Georgia/Alabama is the class of the sec. Ole miss in a playoff? Why? FSU limping through with a backup QB? Why?
This year is as close to the exception as they come, and we don’t need anymore games to know Georgia/Alabama is the class of the sec. Ole miss in a playoff? Why? FSU limping through with a backup QB? Why?
Posted on 12/2/23 at 6:27 am to Jack Ruby
What a weird thing to complain about.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 6:57 am to Scoob
I mean a TON of people go to March madness just for the sake of being there though. I went pop in Intrust bank arena the last time Wichita hosted in 2018 for the PRACTICE sessions and the arena was maybe a quarter full for that. A lot of it people just wanting to check out the atmosphere, like myself, from what I could tell. If an arena in Wichita Kansas is a quarter full in the middle of pre title run San Diego states practice session I imagine most of the actual games are drawing at least 75%
Posted on 12/2/23 at 6:59 am to Jack Ruby
So utterly bizarre to blame this on the media.
The people in charge do whatever they think will make the most money.
The people in charge do whatever they think will make the most money.
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 7:01 am
Posted on 12/2/23 at 7:07 am to Jack Ruby
quote:Most wanted expanded playoffs. This is a good thing. That game absolutely would have meaning depending upon rankings. More college football with more gopd match-ups is not a bad thing.
Screw the people
Posted on 12/2/23 at 7:19 am to ned nederlander
quote:Nope. 9/10 seasons you are convinced by polls which are the 2 best. It's always superior to settle it on the field rather than some fat asses' dens who write for newspapers in Des Moines, Hoboken and Flagstaff, etc.
The truth is 9/10 seasons the top 2 teams is abundantly clear
Champions prior to the BCS need serious asterisks, because a large percentage were likely not the best that year. The BCS era has questions as well based upon how often #2 beat #1. If they can't pick that, how do we know they got the best 2?
In 2014, 16, 19, 20, 21, 22 one of the top 2 teams did not make the finals.
Settle it on the field.
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 7:21 am
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