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re: Notre Dame should join the Big Ten and be done with all the drama

Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:39 pm to
Sad that Marcus Freeman turned out to be a pussy.
Contrast that will Vand's head coach and senior leadership. "We lost 2 games, therefore we have no room to complain."
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 12:39 pm
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12766 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:55 pm to
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They would take them in half a second


Agree.

If the networks who put the deal together realize nobody wants to watch B1G Football, their honeypot is screwed.

Adding a team people may want to see is the only way through.
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 3:43 pm to
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Fielding Yost (Michigan) hated immigrants


Good man!
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 4:11 pm to
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I’m not sure the big ten would take them.


We would, and a few years of them not getting the sweetheart preferential treatment to slide into the playoffs will very quickly change their opinion on joining a conference.
Posted by JoeyP239
Member since Nov 2025
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 5:29 pm to
Notre Dame does not want to give up NBC football money. That’s why they are Independent and will stay such
Posted by UFFan
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 5:40 pm to
They're under the ACC GOR in their non-football sports. And IIRC, the GOR gives the ACC the right to all ND athletic events (except for football), no matter how many other teams are at the event. That would be problematic enough for basketball. But it would be even more problematic for something like track and field, where the ACC would then have the TV rights to the entire Big Ten track championships if just one ND runner make the track championship. And, as stupid as it sounds, the BTN basically has to air stuff that nobody watches like track and field championships just so that TV providers won't drop the BTN from roughly mid-March until late August of every year.

The legal validity of the GOR isn't really determined since FSU, Clemson, and UNC settled out of court. But if the GOR is legally valid, there's really no way the Big Ten can take ND.
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36768 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 5:41 pm to
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Notre Dame does not want to give up NBC football money. That’s why they are Independent and will stay such

They make 50 million per year from NBC and about 17 million from the other sports via ACC, Big Ten teams make 63 million each on their TV deal. They aren’t too far off, and the Big Ten’s new deal is expected to greatly exceed that.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 5:54 pm to
Then the big 10 would get 5 teams in the playoff
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 6:09 pm to
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They’ll only get them if they bring along someone else to get to 20 but there is no other option out there for them to get. Unless they want UConn.


There are a number of schools better than UConn that would leap at the opportunity to go to the B1G
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 6:26 pm to
why the Big 10? They are already full members in all other sports with the ACC and 1/2 ACC member in football. (i think they have to play 4 or 5 ACC games)

Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
2132 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 6:34 pm to
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it’s not all about football. That’s a big part of it, but membership in the big ten is just as much about academic research and institutional sharing. They’ve engaged in that in the past, and it’s probably not the hurdle it was in the past, but I’m not sure the league would trust that Notre Dame would take the blood brother oath.


??

The only reason ND and the Big Ten wouldn't join is football. ND is a top institution and is an AAU member. They'd be a member of the Big10 alliance with no problem. Football independence is the only sticking point. It's got nothing to do with academics.

Everybody's always known the Big Ten is ND's true conference home cause the academics are not an issue.
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 6:36 pm
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
2717 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 9:43 pm to
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There are a number of schools better than UConn that would leap at the opportunity to go to the B1G


Okay who? Who can feasibly do it? What other white whale is out there?
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
17022 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:00 pm to
Notre Dame wants to be treated as a one team conference, The Big One. The NCAA has been allowing that to happen for decades.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14992 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 10:50 pm to
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Okay who? Who can feasibly do it? What other white whale is out there?


UNC & Duke are two that would do it in a heartbeat.
Posted by okietiger
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:03 pm to
This is almost for sure the first time that the benefit of the doubt has NOT gone ND’s way.

They play a couple of tough games, the rest are cupcakes, and usually get to waltz their way in to the right position.

Joining the Big 10, albeit not the SEC, sure as heck won’t help that formula.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27342 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:03 am to
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it’s not all about football.


It’s only about football and TV $. ND brings in both. Certainly a lot more than expansion members Oregon, Nebraska, Rutgers etc.

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academic research


ND is a far better academic school than most in the Big 10 and elsewhere.

Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
5050 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:15 am to
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ND is a far better academic school than most in the Big 10 and elsewhere.


What would it be? Third? Behind Northwestern and Michigan?
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
5050 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:16 am to
If the Big Ten ever expanded again by adding ACC teams (Miami, GT, Duke, Virginia), I could see them finally linking up with the Big Ten.
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
6962 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 7:59 am to
No league should accept them unless they participate in all sports.
This post was edited on 12/10/25 at 8:00 am
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68844 posts
Posted on 12/10/25 at 8:16 am to
Does anyone else besides me LIKE that ND is independent? It’s a different schedule for them every year and adds an additional wrinkle into the whole fabric of the sport.
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