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Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:37 pm to
I expect a huge pay out in return for a NDA. Both sides win.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:37 pm to
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What story do you think he has to tell? He’s said legitimately racist & sexist & homophobic things and did not deserve to be in the league

So you think he is the only one that has ever said anything like that? Release all texts from everyone in the league and let’s see who is left.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:40 pm to
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So you think he is the only one that has ever said anything like that? Release all texts from everyone in the league and let’s see who is left.


Go for it
Posted by Boring
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:44 pm to
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He’s said legitimately racist & sexist & homophobic things and did not deserve to be in the league


Matter of opinion on all counts. But if that’s your barrier to entry, there wouldn’t be enough players, staff, or owners to even have a league.
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:45 pm to
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But hey, excellent attempt at trying to defend a racist


Is it defending a racist? Or is it defending privacy; defending private conversations? Again, I don't think very many people agree with what he said. I certainly do not. Is it in line with the way most football coach types think? Probably. Is that an excuse? No.

But if they're gonna leak his private conversations, leak all of them. If there's anything that any of the 32 team coaches or GM's said - ever - let's be able to review them all in public.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:48 pm to
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It’s unclear why paperwork has yet to land in court in response to Gruden’s civil complaint, filed on November 11. The NFL has declined comment on the matter, via email to PFT.

There are three possibilities. One, the NFL has secured an extension of the deadline to file a response. Two, the case has settled. Three, the NFL has ignored the complaint and slipped into default.

The most likely explanation is the first one. The least likely, by far, is the third one. It’s possible that the case has quietly resolved.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:49 pm to
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He can say it was screwed up how they exposed only him but he still said all the stuff


All the more reason to burn it all the frick down.

Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:49 pm to
The extent you are willing to go to defend this is alarming & sad
Posted by Jimbeaux
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:54 pm to
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Most coaches are egotistical, toxic males who think they are badasses. The vast majority are idiots and out of touch with reality and society in general. That's goes from little league all the way to the pros. Not all but the vast majority. They live in a bubble. Especially Gruden. I don't feel sorry for any of them because they think they can say and do whatever, and whoever, they please


Found the guy with the overbearing mother.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:55 pm to
It'll be revealed in a HBO special.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:58 pm to
I think it should be a live event in the end zone of a football stadium with fans and then someone can throw a dildo at him.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 2:24 pm to
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Will Jon Gruden ever tell his side of the story


The lawsuit answer has already been given.

I also think if Gruden got a chance to tell his side of the story, it’d start with: “Yeah I called that fig commissioner a pussy and I’m not ashamed of it.”

So I imagine his people are telling him to stay away from microphones.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 2:24 pm
Posted by PureMetairie
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 3:06 pm to
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He’s said legitimately racist


Ban every black player that utters the word n***a if you want to play that game.

Such a dumb take.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 3:08 pm to
I think it’s interesting that anyone who gets found out and called out for hating minorities, gays, or women, immediately becomes a hero on this site, a mostly right wing site.

Then when people on the left bring up these issues, y’all say “fake news” and act like those issues don’t exist. Interesting.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 3:14 pm to
The extent you go to comment on virtually every post on Tiger Rant,MSB and OT is alarming and sad.

Do you have a life away from this board?
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 1/16/22 at 3:14 pm to
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Ban every black player that utters the word n***a if you want to play that game.


So you think black people saying that is racist? People who say this are usually racist white people mad they can’t call black people n***er’s anymore. It’s legitimately one of the dumbest arguments in the history of human kind.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 3:16 pm to
I know why you are triggered. And it’s not about my post count
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 3:24 pm to
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The extent you are willing to go to defend this is alarming & sad


Again, I'm not defending what he said. I'm defending questioning the way this one particular narrative was leaked. But I completely understand your attempts to pigeonhole it.
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 3:31 pm to
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I think it’s interesting that anyone who gets found out and called out for hating minorities, gays, or women, immediately becomes a hero on this site, a mostly right wing site.

Then when people on the left bring up these issues, y’all say “fake news” and act like those issues don’t exist. Interesting.


I personally have never typed anything remotely close to what Gruden did in these emails or text messages to anyone. As right leaning as you think this site is, I'd venture to believe very, very few posters agree with anything he said. How is it wrong though to just ask the same treatment be applied to everyone in the league?
Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 1/16/22 at 3:44 pm to
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out for hating minorities, gays, or women


I struggle to see how anything he said (of what I have read comes off as hating gays, minorities, or women.

He made a comment about a black guy’s lips that he didn’t like.
He said that the NFL commissioner was trying to convince teams to draft an undersized homosexual player solely because he was homosexual.
He made comments about women that I find reprehensible, but was not hateful or anything even insinuating rape.

I hate racism. I hate sexism. I hate chauvinism. While I have a more traditional Christian views on homosexuality, everybody deserves to be treated equally and as God’s beloved creation.

I have no defense of Gruden’s language. But don’t sit on your high horse and act like the majority of the populace’s emails, texts and privately messages selectively released would do them any favors. Yours may be fine. Mine would be fine. While I’m very flawed, I’m smart enough not to put stupid stuff out there.

His “defenders” simply know that one person was singled out here for language in private emails in a league that will protect rapists, murderers, assaults, thieves, and etc to protect their bottom dollar and have very little outrage.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 3:47 pm
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