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re: WNBA players turned down a deal that would’ve quadrupled their pay
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:34 am to Corinthians420
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:34 am to Corinthians420
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Idk her teammate looked to be getting pretty friendly with her in that one postgame locker room video
Only a creeper like you would consider unsolicited and unwanted touching as “getting pretty friendly.”
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:41 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Just stupid on their part. Who doesn't want more money?
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A slap in the face.”
Posted on 8/15/25 at 10:52 am to Tiger Prawn
No, I mean that the entities are responsible for 42%, 42%, and 16% of both the top and bottom line numbers.
The WNBA teams own 42% of the revenue and profit. The players want 50% of all revenue, but their organizations only own 42%. They are asking for more than their organizations only actually has.
The WNBA teams own 42% of the revenue and profit. The players want 50% of all revenue, but their organizations only own 42%. They are asking for more than their organizations only actually has.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 11:03 am to Oilfieldbiology
The problem with going back and forth with talking about who owns what portion of revenue & profits, is you are glossing over that they all have to share their relative share of the expenses as well; unless the partnership/investment agreement splits it otherwise.
Sure, you can look at it as the WNBA, NBA, & investment group own 42%, 42% & 16% of the top and bottom-line numbers, respectively. But, you also have to include the fact that those entities also own 42%, 42% & 16% of all operating expenses, including salaries. So, by the players demanding 50% of revenues, they are essentially saying they want the breakdown of revenues as followed: players - 50%, WNBA - 21%, NBA - 21%, investors - 8%; while the expenses are shared as followed: players - 0%, WNBA - 42%, NBA - 42%, investors - 16%
I agree the demand for 50% is an overreach, but it is part of the negotiations. They were at a really low number, WNBA/NBA/Investors jumped it to a higher number. Now it's up to the CBA to decide if they stand firm at 50%, or start coming down. Appears to be a lot of media outrage on both sides, but we don't know what percentage the WNBA started at, and what percentage they offered.
Sure, you can look at it as the WNBA, NBA, & investment group own 42%, 42% & 16% of the top and bottom-line numbers, respectively. But, you also have to include the fact that those entities also own 42%, 42% & 16% of all operating expenses, including salaries. So, by the players demanding 50% of revenues, they are essentially saying they want the breakdown of revenues as followed: players - 50%, WNBA - 21%, NBA - 21%, investors - 8%; while the expenses are shared as followed: players - 0%, WNBA - 42%, NBA - 42%, investors - 16%
I agree the demand for 50% is an overreach, but it is part of the negotiations. They were at a really low number, WNBA/NBA/Investors jumped it to a higher number. Now it's up to the CBA to decide if they stand firm at 50%, or start coming down. Appears to be a lot of media outrage on both sides, but we don't know what percentage the WNBA started at, and what percentage they offered.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 11:15 am to Weekend Warrior79
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I agree the demand for 50% is an overreach, but it is part of the negotiations. They were at a really low number, WNBA/NBA/Investors jumped it to a higher number. Now it's up to the CBA to decide if they stand firm at 50%, or start coming down. Appears to be a lot of media outrage on both sides, but we don't know what percentage the WNBA started at, and what percentage they offered.
yep. this is part of the process. using the thought process that posters in here are using, they would've been offered negative salaries rather than the 250k-1 million offer they just received and turned down.
so they were already wrong on how much they are worth, but now they are convinced they are right that they aren't worth more than the first offer.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 11:19 am to Corinthians420
quote:Twitter data is worth billions even if the model couldn’t be fixed
They sold for $44 billion, I'd say it worked out for them pretty well
WNBA investments are primarily philanthropic
Posted on 8/15/25 at 11:46 am to RemouladeSawce
ah, so you think all WNBA owners are just all idiots?
Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:48 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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The WNBA teams own 42% of the revenue and profit. The players want 50% of all revenue, but their organizations only own 42%. They are asking for more than their organizations only actually has.
The outside investors aren't getting 58% of the revenue. They may get 58% of the PROFIT, but not 58% of revenue.
Out of that 100% revenue, you have to pay all of the expenses including arena leases, league office operating expenses, team operating expenses, player salaries, front office salaries, coach salaries, and salaries for every other staffer for the team from the ticket sales reps to security to equipment managers and so on.
How would they get 58% of the revenue when the league loses money as it is? The return on investment is a share of the profit, when the league becomes profitable.
ETA: The players will end up with somewhere around 45-50% of revenues. The remaining 50-55% will have to cover all of the other front office and staffer salaries plus team and league operating costs. Whatever is leftover as profit can then be split among the investors who supposedly own 58% and the teams who own the other 42%
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 8/15/25 at 1:58 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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I saw somewhere this will be the first time the league turns a profit ever
If they want merit-based impact salaries.... Clark should get $10 mil a year and everyone else in the WNBA gets a Cup of Coffee base salary with $75k max.
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 8/15/25 at 2:07 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
What are they going to do sit out?
The NFL players have leverage when they threaten to sit out because they drive billions of dollars of revenue.
The WNBA could completely close shop tomorrow and it wouldn't meaningfully change anything.
The only leverage the WNBA players have is the left wing sports media aggressively on their side due to some weird little feminist crusade.
The NFL players have leverage when they threaten to sit out because they drive billions of dollars of revenue.
The WNBA could completely close shop tomorrow and it wouldn't meaningfully change anything.
The only leverage the WNBA players have is the left wing sports media aggressively on their side due to some weird little feminist crusade.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 2:09 pm to StansberryRules
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The WNBA could completely close shop tomorrow and it wouldn't meaningfully change anything.
Im sure the NBA would have to give back a portion of that $2.2 billion dollar tv deal and the WNBA owners would have to find other events to host rather than 22 home games to fill their stadiums.
All in all looking at $300+ million conservatively per season in lost revenue not even counting any sponsorships. Currently WNBA salaries are $16 million combined
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 8/15/25 at 2:38 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Think how many green dildo's that buys
Posted on 8/15/25 at 2:41 pm to geauxtigers
They get those for free
Posted on 8/15/25 at 2:46 pm to Earnest_P
I could start in the WNBA tomorrow and would drop buckets.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 2:48 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
So if the owners threaten to shutter the league, what's the counter on the player's part?
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:02 pm to SECCaptain
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So if the owners threaten to shutter the league
The league 3 ownership groups just paid them $750 million to join next year? Id guess they don't get to keep that $750 mil.
You think they would rather give back $750 million to avoid paying $100 million in salaries? Currently WNBA salaries are $16 million total for the entire league.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:05 pm to Corinthians420
The league isn't profitable, the way this game works is artificially inflating the "value" of the franchise and using it as collateral to take out loans. Here's insider information on how this thing really works
LINK
LINK
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:09 pm to SECCaptain
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The league isn't profitable
For who? Who is losing money? It is just numbers on a balance sheet for the owners while their asset appreciates.
and when their TV rights go up $160 million per year next year will they be "not profitable"?
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the way this game works is artificially inflating the "value" of the franchise and using it as collateral to take out loans
you realize why banks are willing to give out those loans right?
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:16 pm to Corinthians420
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Corinthians420
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Man there are gonna be some salty posters that don't understand economics
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:17 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
"We deserve 50% of revenue!"
Do they not realize that the WNBA still lost like $40 million last year even with CC?
Do they not realize that the WNBA still lost like $40 million last year even with CC?
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