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re: Can a bad final season ruin a whole show's run?
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:39 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:39 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
Breaking Bad is probably the best final season in television history and I think that has a lot to do with how the show is regarded overall. If they'd fricked up the last season it wouldn't be topping so many lists.
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:44 pm to SCLSUMuddogs
I think Seinfeld is immune because each episode was fairly self-contained. I can watch individual episodes of Seinfeld.
I watched Dexter: New Blood, hoping it would redeem the series and, ultimately, it didn't. Doubt that I will watch the prequel show, and not sure I could go back and watch Dexter now.
GOT...I just can't do it. Knowing what ultimately happened really takes away the badassery that we were treated to in the beginning.
Today, I watched the first episode of The Man in the High Castle. I watched the show previously and enjoyed it, but I didn't make it to the ending. I know that it goes off of a cliff, but I haven't had that ride yet. So, at this point, I can still appreciate what I'm seeing.
I watched Dexter: New Blood, hoping it would redeem the series and, ultimately, it didn't. Doubt that I will watch the prequel show, and not sure I could go back and watch Dexter now.
GOT...I just can't do it. Knowing what ultimately happened really takes away the badassery that we were treated to in the beginning.
Today, I watched the first episode of The Man in the High Castle. I watched the show previously and enjoyed it, but I didn't make it to the ending. I know that it goes off of a cliff, but I haven't had that ride yet. So, at this point, I can still appreciate what I'm seeing.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:49 pm to Bonkers119
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Can a bad final season ruin a whole show's run?
No.
Were people really not enjoying Game of Thrones season 1-5 because it didn't have an ending yet? Each episode is either enjoyable or not by itself, the overarching story has minimal impact on that.
Sometimes episodes that have NO impact or long term effects on the overarching story can be some of the best episodes of a show.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:56 pm to Corinthians420
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No.
Were people really not enjoying Game of Thrones season 1-5 because it didn't have an ending yet? Each episode is either enjoyable or not by itself, the overarching story has minimal impact on that.
Sometimes episodes that have NO impact or long term effects on the overarching story can be some of the best episodes of a show.
Have to disagree. In the moment the episodes may be great, but after the fact they have the possibility of just being hallow and inconsequential.
Sure, the Red Wedding was a great episode. The Hold the Door episode was gut-wrenching. They are even memorable, but I don't think I'm going to go back and watch those ever again. They feel meaningless in the grand scheme of what happened ultimately with the White Walkers and the Iron Throne.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 2:24 pm to MrCEO
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I've re-watched the show a bunch, but the last two seasons I simply skip.
I don't skip (unless it is Scott's Tots) but I put it on as background noise while I am working just to get through it.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 2:25 pm to Bonkers119
Absolutely. But you can always pretend it never existed. That's how Roseanne handled their jump the shark final season.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 2:34 pm to StansberryRules
Walking Dead fits in this category but it had more than one bad season imo.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 2:34 pm to Michael T. Tiger
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I watched Dexter: New Blood, hoping it would redeem the series and, ultimately, it didn't.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I really enjoyed it. Having Dexter be out of his element- a complete 180 from Miami, and being haunted by Deb constantly, was fun to watch. The fact that his son took him out made it even better for me.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 2:36 pm to cdhorn28
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The Office's last couple of seasons after Michael left were almost too cringey to watch.
Yea it wasn’t near as good but I still love to rewatch early office seasons and I even like the series finale, thought they wrapped it up good and were able to bring Michael back.
Where as with game of thrones type of show the last couple of season really ruin everything
Posted on 12/13/24 at 2:47 pm to schatman
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I know I'm in the minority here, but I really enjoyed it. Having Dexter be out of his element- a complete 180 from Miami, and being haunted by Deb constantly, was fun to watch. The fact that his son took him out made it even better for me.
Jesus, I'm glad I stopped after two episodes
Posted on 12/13/24 at 2:59 pm to Bonkers119
The office, to me, is a good example to ask this on. I can rewatch the Michael seasons, and except I don’t want to watch the last couple of seasons. A lot of comedies are like this where you can just blow off the bad episodes. When there is an important story arc, like in a lot of dramas, that’s harder to do.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 5:56 pm to Bonkers119
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Can a bad final season ruin a whole show's run?
It shouldn't but The Man in the High Castle comes close. Season 2 really had some interesting ideas and plots going on. Season 4 was maybe the worst last season I've ever seen. And it made me never want to watch any of that show, ever again.
Deadwood's last season was almost that bad. But I will go back and watch what lead to the train wreck.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 6:26 pm to bad93ex
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Through Season 6 it was leading for possibly greatest TV show of all-time, those final two seasons took it out of consideration.
Correct
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The Wire lost some luster as well with it's final season too along with The Sopranos.
Incorrect
Posted on 12/13/24 at 6:29 pm to Tigris
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Season 4 was maybe the worst last season I've ever seen.
Even the showrunners couldn’t explain the ending and Smith had a bigger u-turn in his character arc than Jaime Lannister.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 6:39 pm to Bonkers119
Not for me. It will affect my overall thought of it but it does not reduce the fact that a show may have had other great seasons
Posted on 12/13/24 at 6:53 pm to Michael T. Tiger
quote:GOT proves your theory! Some of the best TV ever done, only to be ruined by the last season. Makes rewatching almost impossible with knowing how it ends......
It certainly can kill the rewatchability of a show.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 6:54 pm to TopWaterTiger
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Walking Dead fits in this category but it had more than one bad season imo.
Walking dead just kept going way too long. It went 11 seasons, It fell off a cliff circa season 7. Sometimes it’s better to go out on top than drag on way too long.
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 12/14/24 at 1:36 am to Bonkers119
To answer the question - yes and no.
A lot of it has to do with how much the show depends on a storyline to carry it through. A lot of sitcoms get bad at the end (The Jefferson’s, Good Times, Happy Days, Mash?) but it doesn’t preclude you from watching a few episodes.
HIMYM on the other hand….you realize the whole things a bait and switch, and it kinda makes it difficult to watch.
A lot of it has to do with how much the show depends on a storyline to carry it through. A lot of sitcoms get bad at the end (The Jefferson’s, Good Times, Happy Days, Mash?) but it doesn’t preclude you from watching a few episodes.
HIMYM on the other hand….you realize the whole things a bait and switch, and it kinda makes it difficult to watch.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 3:18 am to skrayper
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I think it depends. If it's a sitcom with no overarching narrative, then just don't watch the last season. OTOH, if it's a show with a narrative and said narrative has an unfulfilling conclusion with a crappy final season - then yes, it definitely can ruin an otherwise great show.
The Office and How I Met Your Mother are two perfect examples of this. As others have said one can watch the early seasons of The Office just fine and then duck off once Michael leaves.
HIMYM, on the other hand, spent the entire back-half run of their show pounding certain narratives into the ground (Barney and Robin are right for each other, Ted is ready to let go and move on), even going so far as to devote an entire (crappy) final season to Barney and Robin's wedding weekend, only to walk back every narrative they'd spent years building up to in the finale.
"Psych, kids! Turns out Barney and Robin weren't right for each other and now that the incredible relationship with your mother that I've been talking about for 9 years is done (thanks, cancer!) I can finally go be with Robin!"
Knowing how it turned out, there's just no enjoyability in rewatching that show.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 5:42 am to Bonkers119
The final season of How I Met Your Mother kinda made me like the show as a whole a little less. It fricking sucked
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