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re: In Jaws, why was Qunit self destructive?
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:37 am to Mr. Misanthrope
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:37 am to Mr. Misanthrope
So why destroy the radio and run the boat until it dies?
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:46 am to 3BlockUber
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So why destroy the radio
I haven't seen the movie in a bit, but wasn't this to prevent them from turning back, essentially? That's a pretty common literary device (and it wouldn't shock me if Lucas or Milius gave Spielberg the idea).
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and run the boat until it dies
Quint's obsession/anger wasn't exactly rational. He wasn't the hero/protagonist or anything. That's why he died
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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wasn't this to prevent them from turning back,
Brody was calling in a mayday. Quint didn’t want any other fishermen hearing how troubled they were trying to snag this monster fish, thus securing their position as the only boat chasing Bruce.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:12 am to 3BlockUber
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How would you explain this?
Survivor's guilt, plus he was the Ahab of the story.
Steven didn't overcomplicate it or hide the ball or anything like that.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:14 am to wareaglepete
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Quint = Captain Ahab
"And he piled upon the whale's white hump the sum of all the rage and hate felt by his whole race. If his chest had been a cannon, he would have shot his heart upon it."
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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He wasn't the hero
You shut your damn mouth
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:19 am to 3BlockUber
Quint symbolizes the blue-collar worker in the 1970s and represents the nation struggling with its love/hate relationship with the white working class during the 1970s.
The old WW2 vet (Quint) shows up to save the town after every idiot with a gun and a boat failed, which represented how greed led to the collective failure of the common man. So now the working class hero returns to save the town.
Hooper obviously represents his competition with his technology and new gadgets. He even says "don't give me that working-class hero crap" (a little on the nose.) This represents the younger generation's lack of concern for tradition, skill, and experience. This is a subtheme of the class struggles in the 1970s.
Quint, the blue-collar worker, fails to kill the shark and dies because he is unwilling to adapt to the changing environment around him. In the end the "working-class hero" is dead and the affluent and technologically savvy Hooper still remains.
Even Chief Brody is a fantastic representation of the family man who left the urban rot of the city to settle in peaceful Amity. He becomes the hero because of his determination to remain above the political fray throughout the movie and rises to the occasion when needed.
It's pretty amazing how well the societal transitions of the 1970s are represented in movies. Rocky, Dog Day Afternoon, High Plains Drifter, Dirty Harry, etc.
The old WW2 vet (Quint) shows up to save the town after every idiot with a gun and a boat failed, which represented how greed led to the collective failure of the common man. So now the working class hero returns to save the town.
Hooper obviously represents his competition with his technology and new gadgets. He even says "don't give me that working-class hero crap" (a little on the nose.) This represents the younger generation's lack of concern for tradition, skill, and experience. This is a subtheme of the class struggles in the 1970s.
Quint, the blue-collar worker, fails to kill the shark and dies because he is unwilling to adapt to the changing environment around him. In the end the "working-class hero" is dead and the affluent and technologically savvy Hooper still remains.
Even Chief Brody is a fantastic representation of the family man who left the urban rot of the city to settle in peaceful Amity. He becomes the hero because of his determination to remain above the political fray throughout the movie and rises to the occasion when needed.
It's pretty amazing how well the societal transitions of the 1970s are represented in movies. Rocky, Dog Day Afternoon, High Plains Drifter, Dirty Harry, etc.
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:26 am to 3BlockUber
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So why destroy the radio and run the boat until it dies?
He would have rather died in the heat of battle than floating around helpless waiting on a rescue mission to get them like on the Indianapolis.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:44 am to alajones
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It's pretty amazing how well the societal transitions of the 1970s are represented in movies. Rocky, Dog Day Afternoon, High Plains Drifter, Dirty Harry, etc.
You’re right. I wonder if even Godfather sort of touched on this with Michael being the young, college boy that comes into the family business and disrupts the natural order of command.
70s movies were amazing.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 10:16 am to 3BlockUber
“I'm not talkin' about pleasure boatin' or day sailin'. I'm talkin' about workin' for a livin'. I'm talkin' about sharkin'.”
Posted on 8/8/24 at 10:20 am to lsufan1971
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Remember he was on the USS Indianapolis that was sunk by a Jap U boat. Many of the crew were killed by sharks. He hunted sharks the rest of his life. I believe that memory of the Indianapolis caused him to want to kill the shark no matter the cost.
This is the answer
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:14 am to VolSquatch
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He wasn't the hero
You shut your damn mouth
seconded
Posted on 8/8/24 at 11:47 am to 3BlockUber
A little off topic but why not just keep shooting the shark in the head every time it got near the boat? Hell he had harpoon type stuff on that boat. I guess we wouldn't have this classic movie if they killed the shark by pumping it full of lead! haha
Posted on 8/8/24 at 12:36 pm to 3BlockUber
He monologue explains it. He was a survivor of the USS Indianapolis. He hates sharks , especially man eaters. This shark represents the sharks that killed or wounded his friends. It is a personal vendetta to kill it and he is blinded by his hate.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:49 pm to 3BlockUber
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So why destroy the radio
Pride. This was still early enough in the fight where he was all consumed with killing the shark and he believed he could do it. All the hatred of the sharks that ate his crewmen and had him terrified floating in that ocean before being rescued by that big PBY.
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run the boat until it dies
Fear. At this point in the fight he's given the shark everything he has. He's stuck three barrels in her and she's still coming. He is in disbelief and terrified. It's like the soldiers that drop their weapons and run. They are so scared they lose all reason and are completely overwhelmed with flight mode.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 9:18 am to 3BlockUber
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So why destroy the radio and run the boat until it dies?
Someone answered this very accurately in another post. Essentially hubris and fear.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 9:25 am to HeadedToTheWoods
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True story. I was on Bayou Liberty near Slidell last year. Came across the house /lot that the Captain of the Indianapolis resided in after the war.
Where at?
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:03 am to pevetohead
Yeah he's an Ahab character who learned to hate sharks after being in the water with them in WW2 and they ate all his friends. He's been on the vengeance trail ever since. Made it his whole life. So when some Demigod level shark shows up, well, this is what his entire life was about. He's killing it no matter what.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 11:20 am to michael corleone
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This is the answer. The Indianapolis. He was obsessed with hunting and killing sharks. PTSD and survivor’s guilt
A key point is that he had a scar where he had hit Indy tattoo removed. Subtle way of demonstrating that he tries to forget but the scar will always be there.
Killing sharks for a living as vengeance that drove him mad when he met his match.
BUT, he wanted it. He asked the council for the chance to do it and he said he would never put on a life jacket again. He knew his fate and even perfect ly described the way he would die the same way his fellow sailors did. “until he bites ya. And those black eyes roll over white, and then... oh, then you hear that terrible high-pitch screaming', the ocean turns red, and spite of all the pounding' and the hollering', they all come in and they... rip you to pieces..
This post was edited on 8/9/24 at 11:27 am
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