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re: The Gilded Age • HBO • Julian Fellowes
Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:26 am to TigerCub
Posted on 3/3/22 at 10:26 am to TigerCub
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I kind of thought it was Berthas ladies maid looking to cause trouble for her
I guessed that or the Butler. He was giving some serious side eye when he had to let things go at Mrs. Russell’s request.
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 11:22 am to BluegrassBelle
I thought it was the maid too but Church makes sense as well. I think I would have been mad too. Whole lot of disrespect going on with these servants.
Posted on 3/3/22 at 5:40 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Sounds like everyone likes it. Might give it a shot this weekend
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:28 am to iwyLSUiwy
So revising my guess to Turner after Monday’s episode.
The lawyer is definitely up to something. He’s pushing way, way to hard.
The lawyer is definitely up to something. He’s pushing way, way to hard.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:48 am to BluegrassBelle
Either it is bad writing or the lawyer is for sure a guy just looking to climb society.
Guess either way it’s bad writing. To obvious or to over the top so in love with you after settling your estate from your fathers death.
Guess either way it’s bad writing. To obvious or to over the top so in love with you after settling your estate from your fathers death.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:55 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:He's an adventurer.
The lawyer is definitely up to something. He’s pushing way, way to hard.
I know they're props, but I get an art boner whenever there's a scene in Jeanne Tripplehorn's house. Every time they walk past Degas' The Dance Class I get a thrill. That painting would've been just a dozen years old at the time of this series. It's still in NYC, hanging in The Met.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:35 am to Fewer Kilometers
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I know they're props, but I get an art boner whenever there's a scene in Jeanne Tripplehorn's house. Every time they walk past Degas' The Dance Class I get a thrill. That painting would've been just a dozen years old at the time of this series. It's still in NYC, hanging in The Met.
Right?
There’s a few bronze castings of the Little Dancer (statue we saw in the episode) still in existence. I got to see one at the Art Institute in Chicago and another on a tour here in Louisville. So to see the wax original in her house was fun. It’s now in DC at the National Gallery of Art. Bequeathed to them by the Mellons.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:40 am to 225rumpshaker
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Either it is bad writing or the lawyer is for sure a guy just looking to climb society.
Guess either way it’s bad writing. To obvious or to over the top so in love with you after settling your estate from your fathers death.
Also over the top: the number of times Van Rhijn says "he's no good you just watch."
So he's going to be a heel. Or maybe it's reverse psychology. Either way, it's too much.
I'm still watching. I'm not knocked out.
I wonder--did people really talk to each other this way? It's so over the top--for example, every conversation Nathan Lane is having. Downton Abbey tone/dialog was more believable (but still, rapid fire).
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:46 am to Grievous Angel
quote:If he's a heel I think it's tied to her dead father having uncovered wealth kept secret by the heel attorney. If he isn't, I think they eventually paint him as a heel and then have him step in to save the Van Rhijn house from ruin.
So he's going to be a heel. Or maybe it's reverse psychology.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:16 am to Fewer Kilometers
You have to figure it wasn’t uncommon for someone to try to “marry up” to climb the social ladder. It’s why the wealthy (especially old money) were such big gatekeepers of who can marry in to society. Just Marian’s sheer association with him has brought him into the Russell’s fold.
I’d like to think it’s hidden wealth that he can only acquire through marriage to her. But I’m ok with him just being a sleezy climber trying to take advantage of a naive girl.
Not everything needs to be a twist. I just hope her eventual relationship with Jack Russell happens as they’ve been implying.
I’d like to think it’s hidden wealth that he can only acquire through marriage to her. But I’m ok with him just being a sleezy climber trying to take advantage of a naive girl.
Not everything needs to be a twist. I just hope her eventual relationship with Jack Russell happens as they’ve been implying.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 10:17 am
Posted on 3/9/22 at 5:09 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I just hope her eventual relationship with Jack Russell happens as they’ve been implying.
SO YOU MEAN THERE'S A CHANCE?
I think Pumpkin might see things differently.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 5:48 pm to BigAppleTiger
Larry. This is what happens when I post from my phone and I've been talking to my friend about her dog.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:02 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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know they're props, but I get an art boner whenever there's a scene in Jeanne Tripplehorn's house. Every time they walk past Degas' The Dance Class I get a thrill. That painting would've been just a dozen years old at the time of this series. It's still in NYC, hanging in The Met.
It really is fascinating. To think that just as we were inventing a new age of technology and industry, we were inventing a new way to see art and what it meant to every human instead of the royalty and wealthy that were its vanguard at the time. Literally rebuilding the entire world for the modern era. I mentioned Whistler in an earlier post, and he was at the forefront of challenging what "art" meant. He was the forebearer of "art for art's sake". My favorite Whistler- Nocturne in Black and Gold- the Falling Rocket, was met with such controversy that Whistler sued his most famous and worst critic for libel.
After it's debut in 1877 preeminent art critic John Ruskin said that the painting was an insult and had no social value, that Whistler was merely flinging a pot of paint in the public's face. Whistler's future prospects were devastated and some owners of his work had already taken them down from view because of the controversy.
Whistler sued and the trial is pretty famous and Whistler's wit and cutting sarcasm is on full view throughout. He won, but was awarded only one pound or one farthing= can't remember specifics, but it was a pyrrhic victory nonetheless as he spent his later years in debt and fighting with his benefactors. But at least he gave us the Peacock Room in the bargain.
He offered many symposiums and lecture series to explain his approach. One of my favorite of his passages reads:
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Nature contains the elements, in colour and form, of all pictures, as the keyboard contains the notes of all music. But the artist is born to pick and choose… that the result may be beautiful – as the musician gathers his notes, and forms his chords, until he brings forth from chaos glorious harmony.
Which lends greater understanding of naming his series after "symphonies" and "nocturnes".
He was talented , arrogant, and dandy- and just as likely to punch you as listen to you. He was thrown out of West Point for fighting and numerous charges, including "giggling" at commanding officers, continually being late, and the aforementioned fighting. For all his faults, he was his own boss, to his success or failure. That one wisp of tied off white hair that was his calling card.
Posted on 3/10/22 at 8:53 pm to Fewer Kilometers
He’s a heel for sure. Did y’all notice him cozying up to the young girl at the carriage picnic?? Mrs Fane sure noticed.
Also, who did Turner, in her note, claim is the person that ratted out Banister to Aunt Agnes??
Also, who did Turner, in her note, claim is the person that ratted out Banister to Aunt Agnes??
Posted on 3/14/22 at 10:49 pm to WinnaSez
So, Peggy’s kid is going to definitely end up being alive.
Marian and the lawyer is going to attempt to elope but I think things go awry.
Looking forward to Gladys’ ball.
Marian and the lawyer is going to attempt to elope but I think things go awry.
Looking forward to Gladys’ ball.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:52 am to BluegrassBelle
Aunt Agnes is tGOAT. She makes me laugh every scene, and for as brutally honest as she is, she actually has a huge heart. Her scene with Peggy leaving was very solid.
Raikes for sure is up to no good.
Raikes for sure is up to no good.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:00 am to BluegrassBelle
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Looking forward to Gladys’ ball.
I wonder if John Adams is going to show up there too
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:09 am to TigerCub
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I don't care for the actress that portrays Miss Brook (Louisa Jacobsen I think?). My husband and I are both driven crazy by her stilted lines and acting. We were so shocked to learn that she's Meryl Streep's daughter. You would've thought she would have learned at mama's knee
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:41 am to Grievous Angel
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Also over the top: the number of times Van Rhijn says "he's no good you just watch."
So he's going to be a heel. Or maybe it's reverse psychology. Either way, it's too much.
I'm still watching. I'm not knocked out.
I wonder--did people really talk to each other this way?
I think it's a little exaggerated, but not a lot. I think the society folks did talk this way a bit. Things my grandmother and great grandmother said in the 60s weren't too far removed.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:43 am to BluegrassBelle
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So, Peggy’s kid is going to definitely end up being alive.
And Jack the footman's mother. She may have got burnt, but she's alive.
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