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re: Non-Pels February thread
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:28 pm to Balsamic_duck
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:28 pm to Balsamic_duck
We all know Embiid didn’t deserve that MVP. Just another reason Jokic is being proven to be the better player
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:55 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Kings at Pacers and Suns at Hawks Friday.
I'm hoping at least one of those teams pull off an upset
Hawks get us a split.
Even in gb with Suns now
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:17 pm to MetryMauler
It looks like the top 4 in the West are running away now and in their own top tier. Denver and Clippers probably better than Minnesota and OKC too.
Some doomer talk, barring any major injuries to those teams I dont see us winning a playoff series this year since we’d have to go through any one of them in the first round. Winning a series is something we’ve only pulled off twice in the last 20+ years anyway
Some doomer talk, barring any major injuries to those teams I dont see us winning a playoff series this year since we’d have to go through any one of them in the first round. Winning a series is something we’ve only pulled off twice in the last 20+ years anyway
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:21 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
No one is pulling away. Everyone is still within striking distance. 6 games back isn't a lot. The Pelicans can make up ground this month if they win games they are supposed to win.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:29 pm to supe12sta12z
quote:We haven't done that consistently this season. Would be nice to start doing that
if they win games they are supposed to win.
Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:06 am to shel311
Bucks at Mavs and Kings at Bulls tonight on a b2b. Would love to go 2-0 in these and get space between us and Dallas, and .5 away from the 5 seed.
Posted on 2/3/24 at 9:34 pm to whatiknowsofar
How good do y’all think Austin Reaves is? I’ll admit I thought he was only getting coverage cause he was a white boy on the Lakers but he might be legit
Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:00 pm to spaghettioeauxs
Reaves is a talented offensive creator and an epically bad defender. Opponents hunt him ruthlessly. He only works for the Lakers in certain lineup combos, when better defenders can help. But the Lakers also depend on him to generate offense. Aside from LeBron and Davis, he's the only one who can generate offense for them.
Here's the LEBRON metric:
O-LEBRON: +0.45
D-LEBRON: -1.19
Here's the LEBRON metric:
O-LEBRON: +0.45
D-LEBRON: -1.19
Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:29 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Reaves is a talented offensive creator and an epically bad defender. Opponents hunt him ruthlessly.
Defensively...he is obviously weak and his problem in this area is compounded by the fact that many of the opposing players want to "go at" him even more than they would normally attack a weak defender. This is for a fairly obvious reason...which I won't go into at this time.
Offensively...very smart & creative...but these strong points will probably be negated a bit as time goes on & opponents learn to adjust to his "style". They mainly just have to learn to "stay on the floor"...and the fairly new "anti-James Harden" stuff will hurt Reaves as time goes on. Plus, come playoff time, he'll face more-disciplined defenders & they will be zeroed in on negating his regular season offensive strengths.
JMO: He started out being underrated...but will probably be overrated...in a coupla more years
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:13 am to Dinky Mulberry
Looks like Lakers lost Vanderbilt for the season. Their already bad defense took a big hit
Posted on 2/4/24 at 7:29 am to Soggymoss
The Lakers problem is the same one that they suffered from two years ago: the only positive players on the team, according to advanced metrics, are Davis and LeBron. Here's the LEBRON metric:
That would indicate that no other player on the team is producing above-league-average play this season. Last season, Pelinka was able to find the right complementary players to put around Davis and LeBron to enable the WCF run.
I'm skeptical that Pelinka can do that again.
SIDE NOTE: Also, LOL at Jaxson Hayes. By definition, a replacement player has a value of -2.8 points per 100 possessions, so Hayes has, according to this metric, played worse than someone the Lakers could find in the G-League.
That would indicate that no other player on the team is producing above-league-average play this season. Last season, Pelinka was able to find the right complementary players to put around Davis and LeBron to enable the WCF run.
I'm skeptical that Pelinka can do that again.
SIDE NOTE: Also, LOL at Jaxson Hayes. By definition, a replacement player has a value of -2.8 points per 100 possessions, so Hayes has, according to this metric, played worse than someone the Lakers could find in the G-League.
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 7:30 am
Posted on 2/4/24 at 8:07 am to GOP_Tiger
What site are you using to find those stats?
Posted on 2/4/24 at 12:00 pm to ghost2most
Mavs blew a 25 pt lead in the 2nd quarter last night.
2 game cushion between the 7th and 8 seed now.
2 game cushion between the 7th and 8 seed now.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:26 pm to whatiknowsofar
The Pels need to be sixth or better and avoid the play-in. As a small market team with their coaching they don’t need to be in the play-in spots on the verge of elimination.
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:38 pm to ghost2most
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What site are you using to find those stats?
It comes from BBall Index. Their LEBRON metric is "Luck-adjusted player Estimate using a Box prior Regularized ON-off."
In other words, they attempt to combine box-score data with +/- data into a combined metric to rate a player's impact.
I used to prefer the RAPTOR metric, but fivethirtyeight has been defunded, and that metric is no more.
LEBRON is luck-adjusted. That means that a player's on-off splits are adjusted for things such as whether other players make free throws while he is on the court. If, while Jim Bob is on the floor, his teammates make five straight FTs, while the other team misses five straight, that's going to make his +/- look +10 better than average and distort the data. On it's own, +/- data is prone to wide variances, and luck adjustment removes some of that.
I saw a study a couple of years ago that attempted to rank various impact metrics, and LEBRON ranked 3rd on the list and RAPTOR ranked 4th, but I've forgotten what the top two were and don't know how to access them.
This post was edited on 2/4/24 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 2/4/24 at 1:57 pm to GOP_Tiger
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LOL at Jaxson Hayes. By definition, a replacement player has a value of -2.8 points per 100 possessions, so Hayes has, according to this metric, played worse than someone the Lakers could find in the G-League.
Don't look now, but Hayes has played decent the last two games (both wins for the Lakers). He's done the same thing here (play well for short periods) and is no world-beater by any stretch of the imagination, but the Lakers sat him down for a month and just had him work with a developmental coach on defensive positioning, and he's actually looked ok.
Pels were never going to develop Hayes here, he was just too immature and clashed with Coach Green. I did advocate resigning him to use as potential trade filler (an extra 5-7 MM would come in handy about now). Anywho, it will be interesting to see how he, Kira, and NAW's careers play out.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 2:59 pm to Pistol44
Lavine is apparently out for the year after foot surgery.
Not like the Bulls were particularly relevant anyway but I think this slows down even more of the trade possibilities at the deadline this year.
Not like the Bulls were particularly relevant anyway but I think this slows down even more of the trade possibilities at the deadline this year.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:19 pm to Pistol44
NAW will probably have a nice 10 year career because he's a hard worker and not a moron.
Hayes is a clown and at best could have a few javale Mcgee years.
Kira seems like a good kid but he doesn't have nba talent
Hayes is a clown and at best could have a few javale Mcgee years.
Kira seems like a good kid but he doesn't have nba talent
Posted on 2/4/24 at 3:31 pm to Pistol44
Hayes always flash a hand full of good games every year. His tools are still elite. The issue was never ability. It's always been his heart and his brain. If he loved the game as much as he loved football he would be a star.
Posted on 2/4/24 at 4:36 pm to ghost2most
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NAW will probably have a nice 10 year career because he's a hard worker and not a moron.
As people expected, NAW has turned into a quality defender. His long arms generate a lot of steals and deflections. This season, his 3pt % is up to 36.5%, but he's still horrible at finishing at the rim, so he's still an overall negative at the offensive end.
But he's a decent rotation player on one of the NBA's best teams. If we hadn't traded him to help get CJ and Larry, he'd probably get minutes in our rotation as well.
Getting a good rotation player is the expected value of someone drafted at #17 -- NAW was not a bad pick. In contrast, Hayes and Kira were obviously failed picks.
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