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re: The Official Trade Proposal Thread
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:51 pm to WicKed WayZ
Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:51 pm to WicKed WayZ
If Allen is the primary asset we get back in a BI trade, we lost the trade.
Allen is a good player and fits a need for us, but you can't trade an all-star wing in his prime for a big that can't stretch the floor. We better get something better back in a BI trade than just Allen.
Allen is a good player and fits a need for us, but you can't trade an all-star wing in his prime for a big that can't stretch the floor. We better get something better back in a BI trade than just Allen.
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 6:26 pm to RUFshreve
quote:Bingo
Allen is a good player and fits a need for us, but you can't trade an all-star wing in his prime for a big that can't stretch the floor. We better get something better back in a BI trade than just Allen.
You have to get a legit #2(not likely) or a legit #3 back for BI.
It's not that CJ has more value, it's just that it doesn't seem like that #2 is realistic this offseason, so use BI to get the #3.
Then at the deadline or next offseason, you make available every draft pick and dude not named Zion/Trey to try and get a #2 that hopefully becomes available.
That's the path. It's probably not terribly likely, but we gotta take big swings.
Posted on 5/20/24 at 8:37 pm to shel311
I still think my favorite BI trade would be with Houston, then bring Cleveland into the deal to get Allen
Pels: Allen, Jabari Smith Jr, Jeff Green, #3 (take Reed Sheppard)
Houston: Ingram
Cavs: Adams, Dyson, #21
Green and Adams are purely for salary matching purposes, and could be swapped with Dillon Brooks if Houston wants, but Cleveland gets a guy they can play behind Mobley as a mentor and pick up a wing defender they desperately need. Reed learns behind CJ for a year before taking over as the lead guard of the future. This would have us 21.7 million under the tax with full MLE and BAE available to use.
CJ/Reed/Jose
Herb/Hawk/Matt
Trey/Green/BAE
Zion/Smith Jr/EJ
Allen/Nance/MLE
Smith can play the 5 in the closing lineup and have a shitload of spacing around Zion.
Then we still have CJ and his salary to trade if someone unexpectedly comes available
Pels: Allen, Jabari Smith Jr, Jeff Green, #3 (take Reed Sheppard)
Houston: Ingram
Cavs: Adams, Dyson, #21
Green and Adams are purely for salary matching purposes, and could be swapped with Dillon Brooks if Houston wants, but Cleveland gets a guy they can play behind Mobley as a mentor and pick up a wing defender they desperately need. Reed learns behind CJ for a year before taking over as the lead guard of the future. This would have us 21.7 million under the tax with full MLE and BAE available to use.
CJ/Reed/Jose
Herb/Hawk/Matt
Trey/Green/BAE
Zion/Smith Jr/EJ
Allen/Nance/MLE
Smith can play the 5 in the closing lineup and have a shitload of spacing around Zion.
Then we still have CJ and his salary to trade if someone unexpectedly comes available
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 5/20/24 at 8:40 pm to Soggymoss
Why in the good frick would Houston do that?
Posted on 5/20/24 at 8:42 pm to Broski
quote:
Why in the good frick would Houston do that?
JSJ has largely underwhelmed so far, and they want a win now piece.
They’re really not giving up much, remember pick 3 in this draft would be valued like pick 18-20 in a normal draft
Adams and Green are just salary to get the deal done.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 5/20/24 at 8:53 pm to Pels_Yaz
quote:
We should use the Mavs as an example. They bought low on a malcontent star who was a headache- who’s basically turned around his career in Dallas. Hmm who’s that sound like- oh wait theres this malcontent star in Atlanta who is a headache that can be bought low on named Trae Young. At the end you trade for the star and the most gettable star for this pels team is likely Trae Young.
This is what I’m been saying since day one. Hes the only real answer of a possible upgrade from BI that can take this team to the next level.
And we buying low on him. Griff has to be an idiot to not make the move. But he’s passed on many trades I thought he should have made over the years. It’s a no brainer.
This post was edited on 5/20/24 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:25 am to RUFshreve
quote:
Allen is a good player and fits a need for us, but you can't trade an all-star wing in his prime for a big that can't stretch the floor. We better get something better back in a BI trade than just Allen.
At a minimum we have to pair Allen with Garland, that should be the floor of what they are aiming for.
Ideally, find a way to pair Young/Mitchell with Allen, Hartenstein, or Claxton.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:28 am to Townedrunkard
quote:
This is what I’m been saying since day one. Hes the only real answer of a possible upgrade from BI that can take this team to the next level.
And we buying low on him. Griff has to be an idiot to not make the move. But he’s passed on many trades I thought he should have made over the years. It’s a no brainer.
Trae would absolutely be my number 1 target this offseason if I was Griff, but I don't know if he has to balls to do it.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:34 am to Epic Cajun
Trae has "it" factor. I think the comparison to Kyrie is probably the best case scenario.
It's worth the risk.
The fit offensively is perfect and with Herb and Dyson to protect Trae defensively, it just makes sense.
The only issue is CJ. I don't think we can/should keep him with Trae. But it's not urgent that we move him.
He can go to the bench and we can try to move him later.
It's worth the risk.
The fit offensively is perfect and with Herb and Dyson to protect Trae defensively, it just makes sense.
The only issue is CJ. I don't think we can/should keep him with Trae. But it's not urgent that we move him.
He can go to the bench and we can try to move him later.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:36 am to ghost2most
I've talked myself into and out of and into Trae about 17 times so far
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:41 am to Pels_Yaz
quote:
They bought low on a malcontent star who was a headache- who’s basically turned around his career in Dallas. Hmm who’s that sound like- oh wait theres this malcontent star in Atlanta who is a headache that can be bought low on named Trae Young.
The difference is Crazy Kyrie has top-10 potential.
Trae has top-25 potential
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
Trae is going to be the highest ceiling player you can realistically get this year (unless Donovan Mitchell wants out and says he would sign an extension here, or you don't care about that)
So if you want to shoot for the stars, its basically Trae, or hold onto every asset into the season to see if anyone becomes available later.
So if you want to shoot for the stars, its basically Trae, or hold onto every asset into the season to see if anyone becomes available later.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:47 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
I've talked myself into and out of and into Trae about 17 times so far
The fact that you keep coming back to him says it all. It really is similar to the Mavs going after Kyrie. It could easily blow up in the Pels faces, but if it didn't, it would probably work out better than any other move on the table.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
We really don't need Trae to be "top 10". If he can stay a consistent "top 25" with a perfect fit to pair with our healthy "top 10" player then that is huge.
If we maximize Trae/ Zion then you have a guaranteed (2) top 20.
Pair that with a supporting cast of Herb/ Trey/ CJ and you have a very well rounded team.
Just missing center depth.
If we maximize Trae/ Zion then you have a guaranteed (2) top 20.
Pair that with a supporting cast of Herb/ Trey/ CJ and you have a very well rounded team.
Just missing center depth.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:53 am to Dantheman504
Getting Allen and Trae gives you:
Shooters: Trey, CJ, Hawk, Ryan
Defense: Herb, Dyson, Jose, Allen
Facilitating: Trae, Zion
All we would need is vet mins and rookie contracts to fill the roster/ chemistry
Shooters: Trey, CJ, Hawk, Ryan
Defense: Herb, Dyson, Jose, Allen
Facilitating: Trae, Zion
All we would need is vet mins and rookie contracts to fill the roster/ chemistry
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:55 am to ghost2most
quote:
The only issue is CJ. I don't think we can/should keep him with Trae. But it's not urgent that we move him.
He can go to the bench and we can try to move him later.
Obviously they can't start together in the backcourt, so you either have to trade him or move him to the bench. If you plan on adding a PG and a Center this offseason, you likely have to move CJ anyway.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:57 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
The difference is Crazy Kyrie has top-10 potential.
Trae has top-25 potential
Absolutely disagree, Trae was in discussion of the top 10 a few years ago. Trae is already a top 25 player, with potential be be higher with the right fit.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:34 am to RUFshreve
quote:
Allen is a good player and fits a need for us, but you can't trade an all-star wing in his prime for a big that can't stretch the floor. We better get something better back in a BI trade than just Allen.
100%. Now if we got back max struss and like a 1st in addition to Allen, then I wouldn't be upset. I'm a big fan of struss
Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:38 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
Trae is going to be the highest ceiling player you can realistically get this year (unless Donovan Mitchell wants out and says he would sign an extension here, or you don't care about that)
So if you want to shoot for the stars, its basically Trae, or hold onto every asset into the season to see if anyone becomes available later.
Yep, I've talked myself into Trae. Seems like his value is at an all time low which bodes well for us.
I think the only way we can vault into contention is by hitting big on a buy low trade this offseason and that screams Trae.
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