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re: 164 years ago today: "No terms but unconditional and immediate surrender can be accepted."
Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:18 pm to jcaz
Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:18 pm to jcaz
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Glad you like the overbearing Federal Government, because I for one despise it.
I bet you boycott the NFL and tell everyone on Facebook about it
You would be wrong, but how did you surmise that reasoning?
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Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:19 pm to Cuz413
From slavery
Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:20 pm to Harry Caray
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As opposed to the confederate soldiers fighting on the behalf of slave owners
Were there not slave holding States in the North during the war?
Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:23 pm to RollTide1987
An incredibly sad chapter in our history. Brother Against Brother.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:27 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Right about the time we lost this country for good too.
Bingo. We ceased to exist as a Federation of States and began on the path of becoming the Empire the founders fought to secede from in 1776.
If you're mad about the corruption in Minnesota, if you're mad about ICE in Minnesota, if you're mad about USAID, if you're mad any crap the Federal Government does no matter what your political leanings are, it is because both parties battle to control the center. When the South lost the war, the ultimate power check on the Federal Government was removed.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:35 pm to Cuz413
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Were there not slave holding States in the North during the war?
That's a very complicated question. Missouri and Kentucky tried to remain neutral but were pulled into the conflict due to their strategic importance. Maryland tried to secede but, due to its strategic location, the Federal government did everything in its power to jail secessionist leaders and replace them with loyalists. Delaware was the only slave state that remained loyal to the Union that enthusiastically committed itself to the Union. All the others had quite a bit of internal strife.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:47 pm to Strannix
quote:He is talking about Lee and Grant, and he is talking about actual numbers, not percentages:
I'm talking about Lee vs. Grant you ingrate
Muh percentages lol, clown world.
quote:Reading is fundamental.
From 1862-1865, Robert E. Lee suffered 209,000 total casualties (killed, wounded, and missing). Over a similar period, Grant suffered 154,000 total casualties.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:51 pm to Cuz413
quote:There you go again. Putting everything in state labels.
What claim does a citizen in Kentucky have against a citizen in Hawaii if Hawaii decides to secede? This is completely ignoring Federalism
The person who lives in Kentucky is a citizen of the United States. The person who lives in Hawaii is a citizen of the United States. The United States is a nation. People from one part of the nation do not have the right to take federal property in their own part of the nation.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:55 pm to RollTide1987
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That's a very complicated question. Missouri and Kentucky tried to remain neutral but were pulled into the conflict due to their strategic importance. Maryland tried to secede but, due to its strategic location, the Federal government did everything in its power to jail secessionist leaders and replace them with loyalists. Delaware was the only slave state that remained loyal to the Union that enthusiastically committed itself to the Union. All the others had quite a bit of internal strife.
Completely agree. My response to the poster was that neither side had any interest in freeing slaves.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:07 pm to Cuz413
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. My response to the poster was that neither side had any interest in freeing slaves.
Which makes the South's decision to secede really stupid and short-sighted
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:15 pm to BregmansWheelbarrow
quote:Funny you should mention that because I thought the same thought (about Madison County having the most millionaires total in the State).
Madison county probably has more Natchez millionaires than Natchez at this point. I personally know several that left.
But honestly a million dollars isn’t what it once was.
A cursory check of AI gives me that $1M in 1860 is equal in buying power to $39M in 2026.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:32 pm to soccerfüt
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Funny you should mention that because I thought the same thought (about Madison County having the most millionaires total in the State).
But honestly a million dollars isn’t what it once was.
A cursory check of AI gives me that $1M in 1860 is equal in buying power to $39M in 2026.
Hell, at one point East Feliciana was the richest county/parish in the US.
I was shocked when I learned that
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:40 pm to RollTide1987
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What precedent was that?
That the Federal government could use military action to enforce Federal laws and quell a rebellion or secession effort.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:43 pm to Salviati
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Pursuant to the 1934 Treaty Between the United States of America and Cuba, the lease can only be terminated: (1) by mutual agreement of both governments to end or modify the lease, or (2) the U.S. ceases to use the area for coaling and naval station purposes. The lease is perpetual; it does not have a fixed expiration date. The U.S. has indefinite control as long as it does not abandon the site.
"Perpetual" isn't perpetual when the country doesn't exist anymore, as Batista-ist Cuba hasn't since 1958. And none of that matters anyway since we're more powerful militarily and they can't kick us out. We're not staying there out of need or principle or any deep-seated reason of legality. Power. Politics.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:46 pm to DesScorp
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We're not staying there out of need
We very much are staying there out of need.
We need to have a presence in the only communist state in the Western Hemisphere.
It'd militarily and politically stupid to abandon our presence there.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 6:02 pm to geauxtigers87
Most millionaires in Natchez did not support the Confederacy. The idea of war scared them to death. They had more in common with the Yankee upper class than Southern dirt farmers.
Adams County delegates voted against the Mississippi Bill of Secession in 1860.
Adams County delegates voted against the Mississippi Bill of Secession in 1860.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 6:04 pm to wadewilson
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How'd that work out?
It didn't work out because Lincoln's government won the war.
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B. The CSA started the war. Remember those mostly peaceful cannons at Sumter?
The concept of "sovereignty" is a struggle for many people not just you.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 6:11 pm to Frac the world
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frick Grant
Who's your daddy, bitch?
You would've been one of the folks who paid a poor southern cracker to do your fighting, or used your position as a rich, slave owner to dodge the Confederate draft.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 6:13 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
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The concept of "sovereignty" is a struggle for many people not just you.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 6:45 pm to Cuz413
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You would be wrong, but how did you surmise that reasoning?
Because you think the civil war has anything to do with modern federal oppression. Shows how clueless you are
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