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re: Earliest ‘Jesus is God’ inscription found
Posted on 11/20/24 at 5:46 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 11/20/24 at 5:46 pm to GumboPot
quote:and the OT likes to talk down on inmates and former inmates. . shame ... Jesus still loves yall tho
The 1,800-year-old mosaic, discovered by an inmate
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 5:47 pm
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 5:47 pm to SuperSaint
Posted on 11/20/24 at 5:49 pm to Tyga Woods
I predict great things for this thread.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 5:52 pm to SuperSaint
quote:both St. Peter and St. Paul were in jail
and the OT likes to talk down on inmates and former inmates. . shame ... Jesus still loves yall tho
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:02 pm to facher08
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Very Christ-like of you.
Sorry for partying.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:06 pm to cbree88
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It’s kind of hard to challenge the Catholic Church’s interpretation of the Bible when the early Catholic Church wrote the Bible in the first place.
When it comes to early Church, is what Eastern Orthodox is today, the same as Catholics from the early Church? They just didn't want a pope?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:11 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:11 pm to Joshjrn
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Two centuries later constitutes “the very beginning”? The lady doth protest too much, methinks
Well considering we don’t really know when the bc/ad split happened and even at 230 years it’s like 3 generations removed from the eye witnesses. I’d say it’s a pretty good indicator of what was believed from the very beginning.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:11 pm to Joshjrn
quote:how? It was a long time ago.
Me too!
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:13 pm to Mushroom1968
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When it comes to early Church, is what Eastern Orthodox is today, the same as Catholics from the early Church? They just didn't want a pope?
Sort of. They split away from Rome and had patriarchs instead. They are considered to have apostolic succession just like Catholic bishops and priests because they have an unbroken line back to the 12 apostles and Jesus much like the Catholic Church.
That’s why the Catholic Church recognizes the Eucharist in the Eastern Orthodox Church as legitimately the body and blood of Christ since they have the power and authority to do that because of their unbroken line back to Christ and the apostles.
Pastor Jo Bleaux from First Harvest Church down the street is not considered to have that legitimate authority since he would not have a line back to Christ Christ and the apostles.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:15 pm to Mr Breeze
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:16 pm to cbree88
Appreciate the reply 
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:18 pm to cbree88
If you can’t beat them join them and control the narrative. The Romans tried to stop it and couldn’t, so they adapted/adopted.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:21 pm to Mushroom1968
No problem, my brother. I like talking about this stuff.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:30 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Well considering we don’t really know when the bc/ad split happened and even at 230 years it’s like 3 generations removed from the eye witnesses. I’d say it’s a pretty good indicator of what was believed from the very beginning.
Not only this, but you have the writings of the early Church Fathers that were circulating in the region around this time. These include the writings of such figures as Irenaeus of Lyons, a leader in the early Church who died about the year 202 - some 28 years earlier than when this tapestry is said to be dated. Irenaeus was a student of the early Christian bishop Polycarp of Smyrna who himself was a student of the Apostle John (author of the Gospel of John, Revelation, etc.). That's how close the year 230 was to the beginning of the Christian movement in historical terms.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:47 pm to Enadious
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John 12: 49 For I did not speak on My own initiative
He was humble about driving a Honda.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:59 pm to Enadious
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Cor 8:6: yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. 2 Corinthians 11:31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is to be praised forever, knows that I am not lying. There is one God, the Father. Jesus has a God, who is the Father. Jesus is Lord. He is not equal to the Father. The Father has put all things at Jesus's feet and in not subject to Jesus. (I Cor 15: 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.”[c] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.)
News like this must really hurt, huh? Yet another piece of solid evidence that the earliest Christians all knew Jesus was God. On this point the Church Fathers are clear. Your man-mad interpretation of those scriptures is devoid of any grounding in historical Christianity.
Also, John 1:1.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:08 pm to RollTide1987
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the writings of the early Church Fathers
I don’t know how anyone reads the early church writings and doesn’t convert to Catholicism.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:12 pm to GumboPot
Would love to bang a noon on that
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:24 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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don’t know how anyone reads the early church writings and doesn’t convert to Catholicism.
All the other stuff in the 2,000 or so year history of the catholic church?
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