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re: Fat and lonely: America faces a grim future as marriage rates plummet
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:09 am to The Pirate King
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:09 am to The Pirate King
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Then they go get dicked down by a good looking dummy that treats them like shite and pop out a couple kids, then hit the market again in their mid to late 30’s once the physical attraction starts to fade. This has been the case for awhile.
The term for this is hitting the wall.
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Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:48 am to Garfield
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My wife and I were fair matches when we got together in our mid 20’s. Now in our 40’s either of us would be extremely lucky to find a moderately close replacement
1. People 40+ have all,without exception, acquired some scars that weren't there when they were younger. As a result, they're more wary than they used to be. Experience, often hard and bitter, has taught them what the red flags look like. Things you wouldn't have noticed or cared about at 25 are flashing like a strobe light at 45.
2. If you have a personality quirk,and most of us do, to a greater or lesser extent, you lose the ability or motivation to hide it. Even if you know it annoys other people. There's a tendency to say frick it, take me as I am or not at all. And so the other potential partner says frick it too and thus ends the relationship before it gets started.
3. So it's not really bad right now for a single person of a certain age. You've got Netflix, you don't have to pick up after yourself, you have money in the bank and nobody to spend it on but yourself. Left unsaid is what happens when you hit 70+. You don't have a spouse,no kids or if you have them you don't have a close relationship. You're getting old. You're going to lose the ability to care for yourself. You don't have a single person in the world who gives a damn about you. What then? A lot of people will be facing that question.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:49 am to weagle99
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Fat and lonely: America faces a grim future as marriage rates plummet
Posted on 10/12/22 at 5:17 am to weagle99
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though immigration from Latin America and Asia is probably a likelier answer.
This!
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:17 am to weagle99
Being a mother and raising children is portrayed as some sort of a failure by society so less and less women choose this path. Problem then becomes that our children start getting raised by the world and not the parents.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:06 am to STEVED00
I got married at 24 and have been happily married for 26 years and I did not do what I’m about to advise. I also got married before access to the internet was commonplace.
What I tell young guys who are frustrated by the dating situation is: Build it and they will come.
Build the career, life, house and lifestyle you want without worrying about dating.
Then there will be plenty of available females jumping at the chance to enter the life you have built. You definitely want to avoid the single moms and divorced women so you will probably be in your mid to late 30s and marry someone in their mid 20s.
What I tell young guys who are frustrated by the dating situation is: Build it and they will come.
Build the career, life, house and lifestyle you want without worrying about dating.
Then there will be plenty of available females jumping at the chance to enter the life you have built. You definitely want to avoid the single moms and divorced women so you will probably be in your mid to late 30s and marry someone in their mid 20s.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:13 am to weagle99
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Fat and stupid and lazy and lonely
Fixed it for you
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:17 am to Grievous Angel
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I don't know if I have local bias or if the average really is closer to 6'
Socioeconomic status absolutely skews the average.
Go walk around a wealthy suburb like Vestavia or Mountain Brook and look at the average height of the men there. Then go to Irondale or Fultondale or some other podunk neighborhood and notice the difference.
I think the reasons why this is the case varies, but if you’re successful, you’ll be around more tall people than not.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:23 am to bird35
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What I tell young guys who are frustrated by the dating situation is: Build it and they will come.
Build the career, life, house and lifestyle you want without worrying about dating.
Then there will be plenty of available females jumping at the chance to enter the life you have built.
In this case, what does the woman bring to the table? Does she have a promising career path? Does she want to be a stay-at-home mother who takes care of children and house? And how do her goals align with yours?
Marriage is a two way street that becomes one way when the woman decides, not the man. Even in divorce cases where women make more money, they keep theirs. And the worst woman to divorce is a homemaker with no career.
I got married. She's a badass, I think we'll be good. I have a cousin who is a divorce lawyer. He told his parents that he will never marry his girlfriend. Nice Christian parents. They're disappointed, but divorce destroys men.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 8:24 am
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:42 am to weagle99
American women are attracted to 6’ tall men but somehow they’re breeding with less attractive short immigrants and producing shorter males?
That makes no sense
That makes no sense
Posted on 10/12/22 at 9:22 am to wadewilson
I think the world has changed a bit regarding how we see value in a spouse and if and when people want to get married.
I grew up as the middle child of 3 with 2 parents who neither graduated high school, one of which is an electrician and the other was a homemaker until us kids were old enough to fend for ourselves and get to school on our own.
The struggle was real, and it had a significant impact on how I view the institution of marriage and had a direct impact on the choices I made later in my life.
My older and younger siblings joined the military and then both married from the ranks and settled down and raised the standard family. I instead, went a different route heavily investing in my education and waiting till much later in life to get married and start a family.
The issue here is that during my time slogging through 4 degrees I met many of those people that this article encapsulates. They are unhappy with who they are, unhappy with the life they chose, unhappy with their prospects on the dating circuit, and in essence just miserable as a whole. It took me a while to realize that Education isn't the culprit here, just a symptom.
There is a large swatch of the population that grew up not terribly well off with the split households, the divorced parents, or being raised by their grandparents and they all know that that isn't what they want in life. A segment of that group is apathetic and accepts it as normal and then we have another that realizes its not and struggle against it. Then you have another portion that grew up in better straights, but that was at the cost of their parents not being home or splitting up because of the need for a two-income household to reach middle class. This group also splits into the "new normal" and I dont want to live this way.
Both groups are terrified of not repeating what they grew up with and are unwilling to rely upon the traditional pillars of the social framework for help and advice (the church, their neighbors, their community) and so are in search of something they want but have no idea how to get there. That makes them miserable and that misery impacts how they view the world.
This misery has made a very disposable viewpoint of the world around them and has now taken over the dating scene and now is permeating the everyday forms of entertainment, which then just compounds the misery as acceptable or part of life.
People aren't willing to be happy now with what they have or who they are. We have developed an ideal of perfection is needed for satisfaction that makes compatibility for many impossible. People are looking for what fills the holes in their miserable lives instead of a companion to move forward with. So many are codependent and desperately seeking someone to help them when they are unwilling to help themselves.
Marriage is dying not because of the institution or the fear of monogamy, but because the perfect view of what they expect marriage to be is not grounded in the real world.
I grew up as the middle child of 3 with 2 parents who neither graduated high school, one of which is an electrician and the other was a homemaker until us kids were old enough to fend for ourselves and get to school on our own.
The struggle was real, and it had a significant impact on how I view the institution of marriage and had a direct impact on the choices I made later in my life.
My older and younger siblings joined the military and then both married from the ranks and settled down and raised the standard family. I instead, went a different route heavily investing in my education and waiting till much later in life to get married and start a family.
The issue here is that during my time slogging through 4 degrees I met many of those people that this article encapsulates. They are unhappy with who they are, unhappy with the life they chose, unhappy with their prospects on the dating circuit, and in essence just miserable as a whole. It took me a while to realize that Education isn't the culprit here, just a symptom.
There is a large swatch of the population that grew up not terribly well off with the split households, the divorced parents, or being raised by their grandparents and they all know that that isn't what they want in life. A segment of that group is apathetic and accepts it as normal and then we have another that realizes its not and struggle against it. Then you have another portion that grew up in better straights, but that was at the cost of their parents not being home or splitting up because of the need for a two-income household to reach middle class. This group also splits into the "new normal" and I dont want to live this way.
Both groups are terrified of not repeating what they grew up with and are unwilling to rely upon the traditional pillars of the social framework for help and advice (the church, their neighbors, their community) and so are in search of something they want but have no idea how to get there. That makes them miserable and that misery impacts how they view the world.
This misery has made a very disposable viewpoint of the world around them and has now taken over the dating scene and now is permeating the everyday forms of entertainment, which then just compounds the misery as acceptable or part of life.
People aren't willing to be happy now with what they have or who they are. We have developed an ideal of perfection is needed for satisfaction that makes compatibility for many impossible. People are looking for what fills the holes in their miserable lives instead of a companion to move forward with. So many are codependent and desperately seeking someone to help them when they are unwilling to help themselves.
Marriage is dying not because of the institution or the fear of monogamy, but because the perfect view of what they expect marriage to be is not grounded in the real world.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 9:22 am to SlidellCajun
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American women are attracted to 6’ tall men
No problem here
Posted on 10/12/22 at 9:37 am to SlidellCajun
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American women are attracted to 6’ tall men but somehow they’re breeding with less attractive short immigrants and producing shorter males? That makes no sense
The shorter immigrants are breeding with each other. Honestly the wanting taller guys coincides with Instagram. Girls are deathly afraid of posting the wrong picture with the wrong guys for fear of losing their status
Posted on 10/12/22 at 9:43 am to weagle99
That would be a good name for the OT: Fat & Lonely
Posted on 10/12/22 at 9:45 am to weagle99
I love threads like these.
Makes me appreciate my wife even more.
Makes me appreciate my wife even more.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 9:58 am to laxtonto
Everything you said is spot on. I will add that the modern notion of feminism that promotes having "sex like men" and that promiscuity is a right has really hurt our civilization. Women are told that they should be able to do whatever with whoever and if they accidentally get pregnant, oh well, it's your body and your choice.
Motherhood and bearing/raising children has traditionally been held in high esteem and is the bedrock of our future. IMO, we need MORE stay at home mothers. Allow the men to be men and hunt and gather for the family.
I realize that many women want to work, but that should be a choice she makes, not something that she feels obligated to do to have value in society.
Motherhood and bearing/raising children has traditionally been held in high esteem and is the bedrock of our future. IMO, we need MORE stay at home mothers. Allow the men to be men and hunt and gather for the family.
I realize that many women want to work, but that should be a choice she makes, not something that she feels obligated to do to have value in society.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:02 am to laxtonto
You could’ve just said being married is hard. Especially if you’re not a happy person.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:11 am to weagle99
Men who have dating profiles need to write them the same way women do.
“ King looking for subservient woman with big rack, long legs and gorgeous face. Nobody with body fat over 20 % need apply. Must enjoy giving oral sex daily. Must be quiet when the men talk. No Democrats need apply unless sexual skills are top tier. Must be an excellent sammich maker. No cat lovers “
That sort of ridiculous shite women write.
“ King looking for subservient woman with big rack, long legs and gorgeous face. Nobody with body fat over 20 % need apply. Must enjoy giving oral sex daily. Must be quiet when the men talk. No Democrats need apply unless sexual skills are top tier. Must be an excellent sammich maker. No cat lovers “
That sort of ridiculous shite women write.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:14 am to HouseMom
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Women are told that they should be able to do whatever with whoever and if they accidentally get pregnant, oh well, it's your body and your choice.
Women are told promiscuity has no consequences at all unless you get pregnant and then you can just abort it. Have as much sex as you can with as many people as you can and then get married once you're done.
Turns out there's more consequences to sex than just the physical act.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 10:16 am
Posted on 10/12/22 at 10:16 am to HouseMom
And thats before we get into them voting
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