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re: I just turned down "the vaccine". Update pg 13.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:55 am to shel311
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:55 am to shel311
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But in 2021, if we reach a point where the government is urging more to get the vaccine and telling us we can't lift restrictions without more getting the vaccine, instead of bitching just know that we won't be able to lift restrictions because of you and people with that mindset. Again, not even saying what's right or wrong, just saying that if it comes to that in 2021, that'll be the reason we can't lift restrictions.
That would be great except for the CDC saying this for those who have received the vaccine:
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Yes. While experts learn more about the protection that COVID-19 vaccines provide under real-life conditions, it will be important for everyone to continue using all the tools available to us to help stop this pandemic, like covering your mouth and nose with a mask, washing hands often, and staying at least 6 feet away from others.
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 9:56 am
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Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:56 am to Loup
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Most of the vocal covid anti-vac folks that I've encountered are on the right. crazy how this shite became political.
For me it’s around 50/50. Like I said I know some people that are homeopathic or all natural types. I’ve also seen some say they didn’t trust the vaccine because it happened under Trump and he “forced it” or something like that.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:57 am to boxcarbarney
quote:You don't believe that.
C'mon man, you know as well as the rest of us that they aren't going to allow full stadiums and restaurants no matter what
If you did, you and all the others that believed that would be starting a revolution...literally.
quote:They haven't. You're taking Fauci saying just because you get the vaccine doesn't mean you can immediately stop wearing a mask to mean that they won't open restaurants "no matter what" and that's disingenuous.
They've already told us that.
Lifting restrictions won't be about how many have the vaccine, it'll be about case/death counts of COVID, so there's the answer to what they've "already told us"
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:57 am to TigerBlood17
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Im not Webster. I dont make definitions. Look it up.
But your use of “natural” is nonsensical, hence why I wanted clarity. Because very little about modern human consumption is “natural,” if the meaning of natural is “native to the environmental conditions of human evolution.” Hell, if you eat a banana, rice, or anything in the Brassica genus, you are eating something specifically bred for consumption, which doesn’t exist in nature in the exact same form as what is consumed.
In terms of social environments, literally nothing about agrarian and post-agrarian society is “natural.” The word isn’t a stand-in that is synonymous with “good for humans,” though it is generally used to imply such things. I just want to know what else you avoid because it isn’t “natural.”
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:57 am to lsunurse
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If you really are an RN and are refusing this vaccine (not because of legit reasons that make you not a candidate for the vaccine) you are a complete idiot and a disgrace to the nursing profession imo.
I’m an RN and not an idiot so I will be getting the vaccine as soon as I possibly can. Thankfully my friends in nursing and other medical fields here are all also getting the vaccine as soon as they are allowed to.
There she goes again. Self esteem must be low to constantly be so dismissive of others while putting yourself above them on a message board you voluntarily take part in. Wasn’t always this bad but maybe more hopeful in the past.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:57 am to shel311
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But in 2021, if we reach a point where the government is urging more to get the vaccine and telling us we can't lift restrictions without more getting the vaccine, instead of bitching just know that we won't be able to lift restrictions because of you and people with that mindset. Again, not even saying what's right or wrong, just saying that if it comes to that in 2021, that'll be the reason we can't lift restrictions.
Eh, power hungry politicians that want to pat themselves on back are the reason for that. If you dont like restrictions then move to a red state with politicians who still sorta value freedom
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:58 am to Animal
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I am not meaning Brain Surgeons or Retina Eye Surgeons or any other Specialist.
I know some neuro surgeons and “specialist” that outside being able to fix a specific part of a persons body, are some of the most retarded people I’ve ever been around.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:58 am to bad93ex
quote:Right.
Yes. While experts learn more about the protection that COVID-19 vaccines provide under real-life conditions, it will be important for everyone to continue using all the tools available to us to help stop this pandemic, like covering your mouth and nose with a mask, washing hands often, and staying at least 6 feet away from others.
If you get the vaccine today, you don't immediately stop wearing a mask and go back to normal because:
1. The vaccine doesn't mean you'll 100% never get COVID, like many vaccines
2. We'll go back to normal when COVID numbers are reduced to a certain amount
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:58 am to Loup
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Most of the vocal covid anti-vac folks that I've encountered are on the right. crazy how this shite became political.
My body, my choice, right? Except this really is my body.
And if your vaccine works, why do I need one?
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:59 am to supatigah
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we dont know, that is the downside of taking the vaccine
Which is why I would bet quite a few people who have taken other vaccines are waiting on this one.
The fact that official advice and predictions were all over the place (and turned out to be way off) in the early days and months doesn't help.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 9:59 am to TigerBlood17
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TDF HIV Drugs Lawsuit. Open. ...
Elmiron Lawsuit. Johnson & Johnson company Janssen Pharmaceuticals is facing lawsuits alleging a link between its drug Elmiron and a dangerous eye condition known as Retinal Maculopathy.
Zantac Lawsuit. Open. ...
Belviq Lawsuit. ...
Valsartan Lawsuit. ...
Zostavax Lawsuit. ...
Abilify Lawsuit. ...
Benicar Lawsuit.
What in the frick? Lawyers will sue for fricking anything. Do you take advil or any other NSAID? Advil is statistically more dangerous than a vaccine fwiw. Thousands of people a year develop ulcers or kidney failure from NSAID use.
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 10:01 am
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:00 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:Not if your body will make my body sick, which is why kids get vaccine. So your kids don't get my kids sick.
My body, my choice, right? Except this really is my body.
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And if your vaccine works, why do I need one?
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:00 am to Salmon
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'm treating the COVID vaccine exactly like the flu shot,
Wel that’s fricking stupid because they are completely different.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:00 am to TigerBlood17
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Are y'all really trying to argue that this does not happen every single day. Good luck with the vaccine guys. I hope this doesn't happen to you. Ill take my chances with a symptomless virus.
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Zantac Lawsuit.
The lawsuit on this smells of bullshite.
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Many doctors who diagnosed people with cancer after taking Zantac said they had no family history or genetic markers for cancer, according to Zantac lawyers. Instead, doctors told patients it was caused by something from their environment.
The cancers they're claiming were caused by Zantac:
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Bladder cancer and bladder removal
Breast cancer
Colon cancer
Esophageal cancer
Kidney cancer and kidney removal
Liver cancer
Melanoma
Ovarian cancer
Prostate cancer
Stomach cancer
Especially when esophageal cancer can be caused by long-term Acid Reflux that you treat with Zantac.
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 10:03 am
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:01 am to slackster
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It’s ultimately a math problem. If everyone took the vaccine, and the vaccine works for 95 out of every 100 people, those other 5 are going to have a very difficult time spreading it to others.
If only half the population takes the vaccine, 52.5% of the population would still be susceptible to spreading the virus (100% of those unvaccinated and 5% of the 50% thet took it).
To expound on these assumptions, if a single infected person spends enough time with 20 people to expose them to virus, there is a 64% chance that at least one person is going to be infected if everyone has the vaccine. As high as that sounds, only half the population getting the vaccine means that the chances of at least one of those 20 getting it is 99.999999%.
These are pretty simple explanations, but they illustrate how the math works and why it’s important for the “I’m not scared of Covid-19” crowd to still get vaccinated.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:02 am to Columbia
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know some neuro surgeons and “specialist” that outside being able to fix a specific part of a persons body, are some of the most retarded people I’ve ever been around.
In my short experience, med school makes people a bit narrow-focused. I’m glad I went when I was older, because I feel sorry for some of these kids straight out of undergrad. I also feel my ability to think outside of heuristics I’ve developed specifically to understand massive amount of information has somewhat weakened my ability to of situations resistant to those heuristics, which might be a function of still being in school. I don’t know if that is true of all doctors though.
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:03 am to Cosmo
quote:what vaccine? The Pfizer vaccine? Are all vaccines the same? Do tell.
Advil is statistically more dangerous than a vaccine fwiw.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:04 am to Topisawtiger
quote:this is incorrect.
Masks are useless unless it is an N-95.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:05 am to slackster
quote:you may as well be talking to a group of deaf folks.
but they illustrate how the math works and why it’s important for the “I’m not scared of Covid-19” crowd to still get vaccinated.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 10:05 am to Cosmo
quote:Then those people should probably avoid taking Advil. Thanks for helping make my point.
Thousands of people a year develop ulcers or kidney failure from NSAID use.
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