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re: I will consider an EV on next wife vehicle....
Posted on 2/2/25 at 8:24 pm to TigerTatorTots
Posted on 2/2/25 at 8:24 pm to TigerTatorTots
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The amount of improvement in just 8 months in Tesla's FSD is insane.
The amount of data they’ve been getting in the past few years has really cranked up the improvement.
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 8:56 pm to oldskule
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This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 7:35 am
Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:13 pm to oldskule
I read this as “next wife’s, vehicle.”
I thought you were planning ahead a bit much.
“Current wife’s next vehicle.”
I thought you were planning ahead a bit much.
“Current wife’s next vehicle.”
Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:21 pm to Woolfpack
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:23 pm to oldskule
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I will consider an EV on next wife vehicle....
It's a golf cart, but I love golf carts. The maintenance is about as simple as it gets.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 6:01 am to oldskule
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Home every night and drives 15-20 miles/day. We have a gas burner for long trips, and looking for suggestions/comments from current EV users.
I will be researching the pros/cons, so please fire away with any real life experiences.....I have rented a few on business travel, so have a grip on the basics....
TIA
The base model Tesla's are proving to be pretty damned reliable, in the same neighborhood as Camry's and Corolla's. There are a bunch of them in rental fleets and most are sold after a couple of years in the fleet. Maintenance is not much of an issue and the on board computer is, by all accounts, extremely accurate as to battery life. We almost bought one for a commuter from Avis 2 years ago for less than $20k. We went with a Mitsubishi G4, brand new, for $14,200 out the door. It gets 46 MPG. Obviously not as reliable as a Camry or a Corolla but about 60% of the cost of either. IF the tax credit for EVs extended to used cars we would have gone with the Tesla...it did not then (I do not think that has changed).
Posted on 2/3/25 at 6:07 am to oldskule
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What about the tax breaks....
Purely anecdotal BUT my wife and I fully intended to buy a Hybrid Pacifica 2 years ago. It was eligible for the $7500 tax credit. At the time you could not buy one, it was about an 8 week waiting list. We found a few around the country and actually found one about 20 miles from us. The dealers, at the time, were marking them up by $10K or so above MSRP AND keeping the tax credit. We weren't willing to pay more than MSRP so we did not buy one. At that time you could not buy a Hyrbid or EV for MSRP and take the tax credit yourself. I am sure a small number of buyers were able to do so but most consumers were not. It may have changed but I would bet it hasn't changed much.....
Posted on 2/3/25 at 6:09 am to oldskule
next wife vehicle
—what car does your current wife want?
—what car does your current wife want?
Posted on 2/3/25 at 6:10 am to Hester Carries
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You can get a 1.5 yr old Rivian that sold for 90K new for like 50K.
While $50K sounds like an insane price by all accounts this is one of the best vehicles ever sold in the US. Not for me, I have always been one who adapted to new technology about 5-6 generations in LOL....but by all accounts the Rivian is a very reliable vehicle...
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:02 am to oldskule
Why even consider an EV. What is the benefit to you? I ask because I see no benefit.
There are plenty of vehicles that get 40+ mpg. Why would anyone buy electric if you can get vehicles that get great gas mileage. It makes no sense to me.
There are plenty of vehicles that get 40+ mpg. Why would anyone buy electric if you can get vehicles that get great gas mileage. It makes no sense to me.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:02 am to oldskule
Factor in the registration fees.
In TN it's $350 after taxes to register/renew an EV EVERY YEAR and around $200 for a hybrid.
To compare I registered my 4runner this weekend and it was $31.
In TN it's $350 after taxes to register/renew an EV EVERY YEAR and around $200 for a hybrid.
To compare I registered my 4runner this weekend and it was $31.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 8:03 am
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:20 am to kywildcatfanone
quote:spoken like someone who is clueless or has an axe to grind.
20K for batteries at 8 years. Plan ahead.
I have a 2018 Model 3 and my battery health is 98.3%. I guess any minute now they're going to stop working.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:22 am to oldskule
find a good lease on a hybrid like a jeep grand cherokee 4xe
Posted on 2/3/25 at 8:22 am to oldskule
I'd get the Cybertruck if it had about 75 more miles of range.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:09 am to BuckyCheese
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Has Tesla fixed it's after the sale issues? There have been plenty of examples in the recent past of several month waits for body panels and such which will negatively impact insurance rates as they have to factor in rental cars while your hooptie is sitting in the shop.
Sort of.
I can only speak for the Model 3, but when we got our 2021 what I was reading from other owners sounded like a dystopian nightmare.
I don’t see many stories like that anymore and some of that could have been due to pandemic supply chain issues (they also outsource most bodywork nowadays so that may help)….but I will caveat that statement by saying the model 3 was refreshed last year…front end, hood and trunk lid are for sure all new parts so let’s just say I drive super carefully.
I’ll also say that wait times for Tesla Service Centers appear to be worse. I took my 2021 in a couple times within the first couple months for minor noise issues and each was a next-day appointment. My 2025 has a small creaking sound coming from the back when I accelerate that I’d like to get fixed, but next available appointments have been a month out for a while. They do prioritize major issues but if you have something small, you’ll have to wait a little bit.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 9:13 am
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:14 am to SallysHuman
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I don't know everything about her buy/trade... she just mentioned the feller at the dealership told her how much money she could save downsizing from toyota truck to toyota (hybrid) car. She jumped on it... and regrets not researching the insurance cost difference. YMMV- I have no opinion on gas, hybrid or electric- just advice to talk to your insurance agent so you know what you're getting into.
Knowing the difference in car value is key to understanding the difference in price; telling people that “hybrids are more expensive to insure” without knowing anything about the vehicle values is silly. When I purchased a hybrid, I saw a small bump in costs because my new car was obviously more valuable than my old car, but the bump wasn’t any different from any other time I had replaced an old ICE with a newer ICE.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:29 am to SallysHuman
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My mom got a hybrid, wanted to save on gas. Her insurance shot up through the roof, negating her gas savings. Had she to do over again, she would have kept her ICE truck.
We added an EV to our policy. Cost of premium increased $600 for the year.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:29 am to oldskule
Why?. Don't cuck on us.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:35 am to oldskule
I think EV's are awesome. They can be practical. The are fun to drive, have all sorts of cool features. But if you are looking to buy an EV for cost savings, I just don't think you'll find it unless you get a Nissan Leaf or something like that.. You save on gas but you pay a premium on everything else.
That said, the leases and financing options you can find on them, even without the credits, are pretty good.
That said, the leases and financing options you can find on them, even without the credits, are pretty good.
Posted on 2/3/25 at 9:41 am to CAD703X
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20K for batteries at 8 years. Plan ahead.
spoken like someone who is clueless or has an axe to grind.
I have a 2018 Model 3 and my battery health is 98.3%. I guess any minute now they're going to stop working.
Yep.
Meanwhile I've spent $1k replacing batteries in my Sierra over that time plus another $2500 on the AFM system and oil pump.
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