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Posted on 1/16/26 at 5:57 am to eitek1
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When he turned it in his teacher used some AI program to predict if AI was used and it said it was AI generated.
We know that AI gets things wrong and even makes things up. So schools use AI to detect AI somehow believe that their AI is infallible?
Posted on 1/16/26 at 6:14 am to whoa
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Crazy idea but maybe go back to written assignments in class
My sister teaches at a small state college. She’s converting back to in class quizzes and blue book finals/papers.
She doesn’t want to, but the school hasn’t been able to come up with any other solution.
She’s had students come to her office and complain about grades, and her go to response is to take what they turned in and ask them to explain an answer in person or define some of the bigger words they used in their paper. They never can.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 6:23 am to eitek1
Program sold are sold to find fraud. They won't get more subscribers if it finds no fraud.
Let that sink in
Let that sink in
Posted on 1/16/26 at 6:43 am to StringedInstruments
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This is what you get when you demoralize a liberal arts education and turn learning into a transactional experience.
Bingo. It’s all about the numbers baby. Whatever it takes to get them. Scores are to school systems as dollars are to publicly traded corporations.
Apply that to every “the education system is broken” topic.
ETA: frick the Dodgers
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 6:45 am
Posted on 1/16/26 at 6:55 am to Gerry Laval
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I never would have thought this would happen
Cliffs for the 2020's
Posted on 1/16/26 at 6:56 am to eitek1
This is correct.
You can’t detect ai. There are one or two tells in AI writing style. You can’t detect just make it re-write those outputs into something more natural.
Ai detect was a thing when it first came out. Those screeners are basically just vaporware at this point.
You can’t detect ai. There are one or two tells in AI writing style. You can’t detect just make it re-write those outputs into something more natural.
Ai detect was a thing when it first came out. Those screeners are basically just vaporware at this point.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 6:57 am to JS87
I'm so glad all this is over for me.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:01 am to OweO
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But I bet these kids are using ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok, etc in its most basic form and they are all turning in essays, etc that are similar to each other.
I’m an APUSH teacher and adjunct professor. This is what I look out for. And what’s funny is it is usually pretty terrible answers and nothing that we went over in class.
I require all written assignments to be done in class. I have a program that they have to log into where I can see them typing a doc.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:03 am to whoa
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Crazy idea but maybe go back to written assignments in class
That's where we are headed.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:13 am to JS87
If college is truly geared towards preparing students for the workforce then they should be encouraged to use AI. All we hear about at work is we have to leverage AI to become more efficient. My company is investing a lot in that area and tracking adoption rates. I know for a fact that senior executives run their fancy strategy and goal statements/presentations through AI tools to improve them.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:21 am to whoa
quote:You'd have to teach them how to write first. Most kids these days including college students, can't read or write cursive.
Crazy idea but maybe go back to written assignments in class
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:21 am to JS87
Plan enacted.
Mistrust created.
AI comes from aggragating words written by humans. Humans.
With this understanding, all papers could be considered to be plagiarized if the content is remotely similar to something written in the past and put online.
Mistrust created.
AI comes from aggragating words written by humans. Humans.
With this understanding, all papers could be considered to be plagiarized if the content is remotely similar to something written in the past and put online.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:44 am to Indefatigable
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AI detection sites will also mark things written by intelligent people who use proper grammar as likely AI written
That was my first thought about this - although I am sure marginal students would try to use AI to write most of their stuff.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:46 am to Indefatigable
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Those shitty AI detection sites will also mark things written by intelligent people who use proper grammar as likely AI written
AI to detect AI, brilliant.
Just make everything hand written, if it’s AI produced, at least the student physically wrote it
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:53 am to Spankum
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Maybe we need to revise what we are trying to teach kids…. AI will be a huge part of their lives and will always be available, so maybe we need to integrate AI into the learning process instead of trying to treat it like it is cheating. Kind of like when engineering classes started allowing calculators instead of requiring that we use slide rules. I’ve still got both my slide rule and my TI 55 calculator!
I had a professor tell a story of a non-native English speaking student in grad school ask if he could use AI to edit his writing so that he could more quickly eliminate the grammatical errors. The professor told him I’ll allow under only 1 condition, you turn both essays in and I grade them. If the content/ideas are the same I will grade the AI edited one. If the AI changes the content or intention of the essay, I’m grading the first draft.
That’s the way AI should be used, a final refinement step once all the content and ideas have been generated.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 7:59 am to The Mick
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Most kids these days including college students, can't read or write cursive.
We no longer use feathered quills dipped in writing ink. Cursive should go the hell away. All focus should be on print hand writing neatness and all work should be hand written until at least you complete high school.
I want less technology in schools, not more.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:15 am to JS87
The funny part is that business has embraced AI as a way to help employees communicate, find efficiencies, etc.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:24 am to monteandmakers
quote:That’s one thing. Those executives would be called out pretty quickly and it would be pretty obvious if they had Grok come up with the plan and they presented it as their own.
I know for a fact that senior executives run their fancy strategy and goal statements/presentations through AI tools to improve them.
That’s what students are doing.
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 8:25 am
Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:27 am to JS87
I was told AI is a good thing and definitely doesn't just make people lazy
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