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Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:44 pm to
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Buckner was also one of Grant's closest friends prior to the outbreak of the war.


I mean, I think Longstreet was in that same tight circle. Longstreet endorsed Grant for President.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:51 pm to
There's a Grant Parish in Louisiana.
I believe that may have been forced, however.
The parish seat is Colfax, named after Grant's VP.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
70636 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:53 pm to
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I think Longstreet was in that same tight circle.


He was indeed. Longstreet was in the wedding party at Grant's nuptials and may have even been his Best Man (sources vary). The two were extremely close at West Point and greeted each other after the surrender at Appomattox as if nothing had been going on for the previous four years.
Posted by Missouri Waltz
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:57 pm to
James Longstreet was related to the Dent family that resided on a plantation outside of St. Louis (his mother was a Dent). He would take his buddy Ulysses S. Grant with him when they were both stationed at Jefferson Barracks and Longstreet would go to visit the Dents.

Grant married Julia Dent in 1848. It is unknown if Longstreet stood with him at his wedding, but he was almost certainly present. The Dent family gave Grant a slave as a wedding gift. He later freed that slave at the old St. Louis courthouse after he had been cashiered from the U.S. Army for habitual drunkenness and failed as a farmer in Missouri. That is the same courthouse where the Dred Scott case was decided.

ETA: What many people do not know is that Grant was arguably the best horsemen in either army.

I love Grant. He was responsible for more yankee deaths than Robert E. Lee.
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 5:01 pm
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22412 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:58 pm to
f that dude
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:36 pm to
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We have a parish named after him not that the citizens had much say in the matter.



They could have changed it after Reconstruction ended.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
10725 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:39 pm to
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You’ll never see a street named after him in the south…


Arkansas has a county named after him. County seat is Sheridan.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
73575 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:39 pm to
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American hero

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Ulysses S. Grant.

Ehhhhh......
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12584 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:40 pm to
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You’ll never see a street named after him in the south…

That’s not true.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
10725 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:40 pm to
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I mean, I think Longstreet was in that same tight circle. Longstreet endorsed Grant for President.


Longstreet was in Grant’s wedding before the war
Posted by BillyOceans11
Houston
Member since May 2020
127 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:46 pm to
Grant by Ron Chernow was a fantastic read. I was never a fan of Grant (damn yankee) but his story is fascinating, to go from resigning from the Army in disgrace to leading the Union forces and ultimately being president.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4651 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:49 pm to
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The Personal Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant is the autobiography of American President Ulysses S. Grant, focused mainly on the general's actions during the American Civil War.

Written as Grant was dying in 1885, the two-volume set was published by Mark Twain shortly after Grant's death.

The Personal Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant has been highly regarded by the general public, military historians and literary critics. Grant was a shrewd, intelligent, and effective writer. He portrayed himself in the persona of the honorable Western hero, whose strength lies in his honesty and straightforwardness. He candidly depicts his battles against both the external Confederates and his internal Army foes.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
10725 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:50 pm to
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Grant by Ron Chernow was a fantastic read. I was never a fan of Grant (damn yankee) but his story is fascinating, to go from resigning from the Army in disgrace to leading the Union forces and ultimately being president.


I think the efforts to make Lee and Stonewall saints have made them less interesting.

Grant and Sherman both had such big failures and redemption. Reading about them is much more interesting.

I thought Chernow’s book on Twain was interesting after reading his Grant book. Grant and Twain were both schmucks who kept getting swindled in business. It’s no wonder they got along so well.
Posted by TheDeerHunter
Deer woods
Member since Jun 2025
278 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:52 pm to
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We lost an American hero 140 years ago today


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Ulysses S. Grant.


Ummmm…No.

Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
155813 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:01 pm to
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We have a parish named after him not that the citizens had much say in the matter
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Lincoln Parish (French: Paroisse de Lincoln)
who the frick calls it that
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The parish was created on February 24, 1873, from parts of Bienville, Claiborne, Union, and Jackson parishes, and its boundaries have changed only once (in 1877). This makes Lincoln Parish one of the Reconstruction parishes.

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The parish seat was Vienna from the parish's creation in 1873 until 1884, when a parish-wide vote moved it to the new railroad town of Ruston
move it back
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51360 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:02 pm to
How excited are you to make this thread every year
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134349 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:07 pm to
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Grant and Lee were most certainly not friends.
Maybe "acquaintances" is a more accurate word...

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In his Memoirs Grant described the meeting (at Appomattox) this way, "We soon fell into a conversation about old army times. He remarked that he remembered me very well in the old army; and I told him that as a matter of course I remembered him perfectly, but from the difference in our rank and years (there being about sixteen year's difference in our ages), I had thought it very likely that I had not attracted his attention sufficiently to be remembered by him after such a long interval.

Our conversation grew so pleasant that I almost forgot the object of our meeting. After the conversation had run on in this style for some time, General Lee called my attention to the object of our meeting, and said that he had asked for this interview for the purpose of getting from me the terms I proposed to give his army."
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Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
42271 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:18 pm to
Worst H.S. named after him
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36723 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:29 pm to
Except in NO East
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
26794 posts
Posted on 7/23/25 at 7:52 pm to
Guy fought one battle during the entire war where he didn’t have overwhelming numbers facing his opposition.

I give him credit for being smart enough to realize all he had to do was throw enough boys at Lee’s front and eventually he couldn’t lose.

As for being a great tactician….not once was he forced to do anything noteworthy such as split his army as Lee did. Hell, he got his arse handed to him the first day at Shiloh when there was a level playing field numbers wise. It took reinforcements on day two to avoid a catastrophe.
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