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re: We Went to Arkansas. The Farm Crisis Will Shock You
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:36 am to hikingfan
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:36 am to hikingfan
So fricking tired of farmers complaining
Since the new deal era (and even before that) the govt has funneled an insane amount of money to farmers, and even pays them to destroy crops to keep prices high.
Also, farmers are the reason we went off the gold standard. They *wanted* inflation via silver coinage
Since the new deal era (and even before that) the govt has funneled an insane amount of money to farmers, and even pays them to destroy crops to keep prices high.
Also, farmers are the reason we went off the gold standard. They *wanted* inflation via silver coinage
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:39 am to hikingfan
Farmers do whatever it takes to look poor to make up for their tax returns and $100,000 trucks.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:39 am to UptownJoeBrown
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Last I looked, our politicians don’t care about whitey culture.
You do realize we have more than just white farmers and ranchers.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:22 pm to hikingfan
We will one day pay for our failure to have abundant local sources of food.
I buy a majority of our food from local sources, though it gets difficult in the winter.
I buy a majority of our food from local sources, though it gets difficult in the winter.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:26 pm to hikingfan
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Farmers told us it's because a handful of corporations have taken control of their markets to ensure they always win, and farmers barely break even.
This sounds bad.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:32 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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As long as you couch it in terms of national security
This is how it should be portrayed. Food should be a national security issue.
It’s why I am not that bothered by farm subsidies, while being against almost all government subsidies and entitlements. (Note: I am not necessarily FOR farm subsidies, I’m just not adamantly opposed to)
Having a large and geographically diverse farm economy, with farms of all sizes, is best for a food supply. The smaller the circle of owners, the worse for America.
A hungry population is the fastest route to revolution.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:33 pm to Midtiger farm
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So enforcing anti trust laws = socialism?
I responded to a post about "national security"
Now you've shifted the argument, with the "so you're saying" meme
Posted on 11/23/25 at 3:09 pm to hikingfan
Don’t antitrust laws prohibit market monopolies?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 3:16 pm to glassart
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Updown Slow Frown is a troll with several alters.
This guy has seemingly come out of nowhere and is all over the place lately. Never really noticed him until lately.
He’s a “pull yourself up by the bootstraps and work hard” kinda guy, but is now shitting on the agriculture industry, which is ya know…pretty damn important and known to be tough work.
Suddenly, he’s a capitalist. I guess he’s okay with foreign investors taking over these farms once they knock out the competition, because you know…capitalism.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 3:21 pm to TexasTiger08
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He’s a “pull yourself up by the bootstraps and work hard” kinda guy, but is now shitting on the agriculture industry,
The ag industry is already propped up by billions in public welfare every year
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Suddenly, he’s a capitalist.
"Suddenly" since 2005?
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I guess he’s okay with foreign investors taking over these farms once they knock out the competition, because you know…capitalism.
I only argued against criticizing capitalism by promoting socialism (even via "national security") and then calling the capitalism, "Socialism"
Posted on 11/23/25 at 3:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
I was referring to another poster…not you.
Unless he is one of your alters, but I’m not suggesting that.
Unless he is one of your alters, but I’m not suggesting that.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 3:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Suddenly" since 2005?
He’s not talking about you
He’s talking about uptown brown guy unless you’re admitting that’s your alter?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 3:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The ag industry is already propped up by billions in public welfare every year
So are a bunch of other industries that you believe in your naivety are purely capitalistic
Posted on 11/23/25 at 3:29 pm to Midtiger farm
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that you believe in your naivety are purely capitalistic
Assumption not found in evidence.
But I will advise that special tax treatment =/= welfare. Most of the time that is conflated (intentionally or otherwise) by Leftist rhetoric.
Farmers bitch more than any other directly subsidized industry other than public school teachers.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 3:29 pm to Eurocat
We don’t often agree on politics but on this I’m with you 100%.
America is better off with small farms and small business owners.
America is better off with small farms and small business owners.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 6:42 am
Posted on 11/23/25 at 3:30 pm to KemoSabe65
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Currently negotiating the sale of our family farm,
Where's it located?
Posted on 11/23/25 at 3:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Since the new deal era (and even before that) the govt has funneled an insane amount of money to farmers, and even pays them to destroy crops to keep prices high.
Or pay not to plant period.
And now they turn some of the corn crop to ethanol thanks to Bush's energy policy using government money.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 3:47 pm to leeman101
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And now they turn some of the corn crop to ethanol thanks to Bush's energy policy using government money.
Yeah if you want to talk national security, supporting growing non-food kind of hurts that argument, and that's ignoring how that whole industry is subsidized by public money.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 4:41 pm to leeman101
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Or pay not to plant period.
Please quote the usda program over the last 30 years that payed farmers not to plant or to destroy crops
Crp is paying landowners and most of that land doesn’t need to be planted
Crop ins for corn and soybeans actually encourages more marginal land to be planted - as does ethanol policies- both are examples of policies that have led to cattle shortage in the US
Posted on 11/23/25 at 4:43 pm to TexasTiger08
He’s also a petroleum expert, an ASE certified automotive technician, a CPA, etc.
Literally the first or second poster on the OT today on each topic.
Literally the first or second poster on the OT today on each topic.
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