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re: Criminal charges for Americans who employ illegals
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:32 am to DeltaHog
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:32 am to DeltaHog
quote:They can't hire legals with work visas? What would those businesses be doing had the border not been porous over the last 25 years?
So you want tax paying small business owners charged with a crime for hiring a kid to wash dishes or work a weed eater
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Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:32 am to DeltaHog
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This is fricking insanity.
Never fear. The mob on this board has assured me they will do the jobs illegals are now doing.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:33 am to Florida_Man1981
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Hey it;s only fair if we're going to take a stand against illegals to hold those accountable who hire them
It’s obvious you’ve never owned a business.
How about asking the right questions to figure out why illegals are hired. What’s happened in this country over the last 25 years to force some industries into hiring illegals and why many Americans feel they’re too good to work those jobs. It runs so much deeper than what’s at the surface.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:35 am to Jake88
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They can't hire legals with work visas? What would those businesses be doing had the border not been porous over the last 25 years?
Gee I guess the workforce and the system would be set up a bit differently wouldn’t it?
And you think the people applying for work visas are coming to clean your pool, wash dishes and do your yardwork??????
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:36 am to DeltaHog
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Hey it;s only fair if we're going to take a stand against illegals to hold those accountable who hire them
It’s obvious you’ve never owned a business.
How about asking the right questions to figure out why illegals are hired. What’s happened in this country over the last 25 years to force some industries into hiring illegals and why many Americans feel they’re too good to work those jobs. It runs so much deeper than what’s at the surface.
I just want things to be fair. If we're going to go all in against illegals we can't give passes to those who hire them.
Besides - I'm sure American workers will step into these jobs and consumers will be fine with 30% - 40% increases in home prices etc.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Never fear. The mob on this board has assured me they will do the jobs illegals are now doing.
Yes bubba from Denham Springs is definitely taking a second job to wash dishes at the local cafe in the evening.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:38 am to chalmetteowl
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I’ll laugh if a lot of them are Republicans
Why? Everyone knows some will be. And some will be Democrats. And yet we want employers cracked down on anyway. It’s almost like we want the right thing done regardless of party lines. Weird.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:39 am to GeauxtigersMs36
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Tell your kids who may not want to go to college, Learn a trade. Welder, pipe fitter, insulator, electrician etc…
Been advocating this for years. Be good, if not GREAT, at something. College studies (2yr, 4yr & beyond degrees), trade skills, fire/police/EMS, the military, service industry, etc. Know the market you want to pursue and don't let others halt your advance. Put on your adult pants and make your way.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:42 am to Florida_Man1981
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I just want things to be fair. If we're going to go all in against illegals we can't give passes to those who hire them. Besides - I'm sure American workers will step into these jobs and consumers will be fine with 30% - 40% increases in home prices etc.
Yeah well it’s not “fair” and I was told a long time ago by a wise man a fair is a place to go ride a Ferris wheel. Nothing is ever “fair”.
And you’re wrong. You can’t live in a welfare state, import a working class and expect businesses not to hire them. On top of that you can deport every single working class illegal and expect that welfare state citizenry to all of a sudden get up off their asses and start becoming productive citizens.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:42 am to DeltaHog
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Yes bubba from Denham Springs is definitely taking a second job to wash dishes at the local cafe in the evening.
We have Jamaicans on work visas for that here, legally.
Not some damn illegal Mexican that just got off the turnip truck.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:42 am to rob0710
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Don't tell your kids to learn a trade unless you want them to be poor
Those that learn trades, but remain poor, do so because of financial illiteracy.
We teach our kids to consume. How many single guys in a skilled trade do you know living paycheck to paycheck to support their truck, or their boat, or their meth habit?
We need a lot more financial education at home and in schools.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:50 am to rob0710
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Don't tell your kids to learn a trade unless you want them to be poor
The poor part is because these folks typically have poor money management skills.
That said, they help people like me that like to invest. I love operators because I know the wife will have a 90,000 suv and they will spend all their money back into the economy propping up investors.
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 9:52 am
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:52 am to ArHog
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We have Jamaicans on work visas for that here, legally. Not some damn illegal Mexican that just got off the turnip truck.
You do understand that for the last probably 25 years if ANYONE crosses the border they can get an ID and told they’re allowed to come into the United States for a period of time and “work”. These people are being told by government officials it’s okay. What the hell do you expect them to do when laws aren’t enforced for literal generations?
It’s not new. This damn illegal Mexican thing shows how stupid you actually are on this subject. Illegal Mexicans have been coming into the country since after the civil war. Know all those sombreros in the cotton fields chopping cotton for the last 150 years? You think they’re legal? Have work visas? They’ve literal shaped culture in the south. There’s a fricking tamale trail in Mississippi delta because of them.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:55 am to DeltaHog
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It’s obvious you’ve never owned a business.
How about asking the right questions to figure out why illegals are hired. What’s happened in this country over the last 25 years to force some industries into hiring illegals and why many Americans feel they’re too good to work those jobs. It runs so much deeper than what’s at the surface.
It's not that, but it's almost as if people here think illegals walk into a business wearing a T-shirt that says "ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT HIRE ME."
Sure there are contractors that go to the Home Depot and gather up people looking for work, and that needs to stop. However, MOST of the time, an illegal can provide a SS card and a valid driver's license. Most of the time, they PASS an EVerify check. They pass 4 level background checks. They pass TWIC background checks. And after all of that, some are still asserting that the business owners should face fines and criminal prosecution? Frick that.
There are many industries that have protocols in place to avoid hiring illegals, yet they still get through. Are we seriously expecting businesses to play Inspector Clouseau? Sorry, I have more important things to do, and if there comes a time where businesses could be fined, criminally prosecuted, or have assets seized (as some have suggested on here) for unknowingly hiring an illegal there will be a backlash against this administration faster than a snake smiles.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:56 am to Florida_Man1981
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I'm all in on securing the border. Hope the Trump administration crushes all the contractors and companies employing illegals.
You know this will fawk up the economy. Sounds good to do but better give it some time to come into equilibrium. There are just too many illegals in the country working.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:58 am to DeltaHog
quote:Don't they work farms and other labor?
And you think the people applying for work visas are coming to clean your pool, wash dishes and do your yardwork??????
quote:Well, now the time of correction. Keep up or get left behind.
Gee I guess the workforce and the system would be set up a bit differently wouldn’t it?
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:59 am to rob0710
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Don't tell your kids to learn a trade unless you want them to be poor and have their bodies shot at 40.
You're an idiot. I've done physical labor my entire life. I'm closer to 60 than 50 and can outwork men half my age.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 10:02 am to Ten Bears
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It's not that, but it's almost as if people here think illegals walk into a business wearing a T-shirt that says "ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT HIRE ME." Sure there are contractors that go to the Home Depot and gather up people looking for work, and that needs to stop. However, MOST of the time, an illegal can provide a SS card and a valid driver's license. Most of the time, they PASS an EVerify check. They pass 4 level background checks. They pass TWIC background checks. And after all of that, some are still asserting that the business owners should face fines and criminal prosecution? Frick that. There are many industries that have protocols in place to avoid hiring illegals, yet they still get through. Are we seriously expecting businesses to play Inspector Clouseau? Sorry, I have more important things to do, and if there comes a time where businesses could be fined, criminally prosecuted, or have assets seized (as some have suggested on here) for unknowingly hiring an illegal there will be a backlash against this administration faster than a snake smiles.
Spot fricking on bravo and thank you
Posted on 1/29/25 at 10:02 am to Florida_Man1981
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I'm all in on securing the border. Hope the Trump administration crushes all the contractors and companies employing illegals.
This is anti-capitalist commie tripe and decent people shouldn't fall for it.
It’s the feds job to secure the border and keep illegals out. You can’t flood the country and then prosecute businesses for hiring people that are here.
It’s like if the government flooded the nation with counterfeit currency and then prosecuted citizens for using them.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 10:06 am to BeehiveTiger
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.I walked away from an engineering career for a decade to start a service company.
I'm all for the trades. But this is not the same thing.
99 percent of the people who go into trades don't start their own companies and just work for other people at an hourly rate.
These discussions always conflate the dude who has is own HVAC company with the hourly worker.
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