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re: Federal judge deems ICE's warrantless arrests illegal
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:00 am to Jbird
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:00 am to Jbird
I wonder how he’s going to feel if they come and lock him up for being a domestic terrorist or at least terrorist enabler. frick that guy and every word out of his mouth.
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Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:02 am to Longhorn Actual
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Illegals, by the very definition are doing just that
Of course when you label people "illegals" they are, by definition, illegal. The question is, how do you spot who is here illegally and who is not before you arrest them?
Posted on 11/27/25 at 11:07 am to Jbird
Oddly enough US Citizens can be arrested and caged for mere suspicion of a crime....with no consideration of them being a flight risk.... let that soak in.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 12:15 pm to Jbird
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Immigration Law: Recently, he issued a preliminary injunction requiring U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to adhere to federal law regarding warrantless arrests,
Let's analyze this legally - SCOTUS said they can stop virtually anyone for almost any reason even looks to confirm here legally - so if the stipulated s lawful and they are here illegally is this judge saying they can't arrest? Seems wrong
Posted on 11/27/25 at 12:17 pm to dafif
quote:Very catch-22 like.
Let's analyze this legally - SCOTUS said they can stop virtually anyone for almost any reason even looks to confirm here legally - so if the stipulated s lawful and they are here illegally is this judge saying they can't arrest? Seems wrong
Posted on 11/27/25 at 12:18 pm to 4cubbies
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Another small government conservative favoring small government things…
Enforcement of immigration is a Basic and essential responsibility of a small government.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 12:19 pm to djsdawg
quote:4Dummies thought she had some big gotcha.
Another small government conservative favoring small government things…
Enforcement of immigration is a Basic and essential responsibility of a small government.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 12:20 pm to Jbird
frick him, I will file a JIC complaint on this cock sucker Monday.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:57 pm to retired_tiger
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You will note that there is not an exception for "people who here illegally."
It plainly states "any person" for both the equal protection clause and due process clause. And yes, the jurisprudence agrees.
So please, school away.
Not to mention the fact that, absent a warrant, wouldn't probably cause be necessary to make an arrest?
How does one know if an illegal is illegal? Apparently it's being suggested that having brown skin is probably cause.
As far as I know, there is no law requiring anyone walking down the street to be carrying any passport or ID card validating one's nationality. And even if there was, what is the probable cause for detaining someone and asking for that ID?
Posted on 11/27/25 at 1:59 pm to Harry Boutte
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Illegals, by the very definition are doing just that
Of course when you label people "illegals" they are, by definition, illegal. The question is, how do you spot who is here illegally and who is not before you arrest them?
Simple. Apparently looking Hispanic is probably cause, in the view of many on this board.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:14 pm to Jbird
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Federal judge deems ICE's warrantless arrests illegal
cannot change the 4th amendment from the bench/needs congressional approval. What an asshat this guy is, frick him
lol
Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:15 pm to Jbird
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or specific evidence that the person is a flight risk.
Uh they have been in flight since they got here illegally
Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:21 pm to Harry Boutte
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The question is, how do you spot who is here illegally and who is not before you arrest them?
simple...Ice conducts an ivestigation based on (any number of reasons--tips from community, Info from other Law enforcement agency...looking for specific person known to frequent the area, etc.) Mr Or Ms. _________ was detained /stopped for (previously stated reasons) and found to be wanted, (open warrant) here illegally, etc., etc. It really is just that simple..
This post was edited on 11/27/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:22 pm to Jbird
We aren’t “arresting” the illegals, we’re just deporting them.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:26 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Simple. Apparently looking Hispanic is probably cause, in the view of many on this board
well, if you are in a store looking to buy fruit, do you go to the bread aisle for that?
Also, there is much more going on than just cops randomly stopping random spanish folks to see who they are
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 10:53 am
Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:27 pm to Longhorn Actual
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They’d need a warrant to arrest you unless you are currently committing the illegal act within their presence or view.
Illegals, by the very definition are doing just that, thus no warrant requirement.
This judge’s order is unconstitutional on its face
Bingo. The clown judge is overriding decades and more of established constitutional law. I trust no one is taking him serious.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:31 pm to prouddawg
Immigration is considered a civil matter, or so the left screams, but now they want it to be criminal.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 2:41 pm to Megasaurus
So according to this judge, anyone can just walk across the border tell border patrol to kiss their arse you dont have a warrant and walk on by.
Regarding finding these people......Palantir says hold my beer.....
Regarding finding these people......Palantir says hold my beer.....
quote:
the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), primarily through its sub-agency Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), uses software developed by Palantir Technologies to help identify, locate, and process undocumented immigrants for detention and deportation.
Posted on 11/27/25 at 4:28 pm to Jbird
This judge is making a ruling that SCOTUS has already said he does not have the authority to do. 
Posted on 11/27/25 at 8:00 pm to retired_tiger
quote:Maybe you missed this part
nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law
quote:How can an illegal citizen, someone who shouldn't even be in the country, be subject to US jurisdiction? They're not even supposed to be here. The remedy to the problem is not to give them more rights. The remedy is to deport them before they even get "due process." In fact, if the government is doing their job, they would have prevented them from being in the country to begin with.
subject to the jurisdiction thereof
quote:As I said
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States
That halfwit SFP started inserting ideas into the amendment that even illegals have "rights" and that the amendment shows citizens have "more rights" which is indicative of typical SFP delusion - eisegesis. There's nothing in the language that suggests "levels" of rights.
quote:Because they're not supposed to be here at all. Think about what you're saying. It leads to the absurd situation that people can cross illegally, have rights and then potentially get to stay merely because the government was negligent. It's ludicrous. Moreover, what happens when a corrupt administration lets tens of millions illegally cross? How is the justice system supposed to adequately provide due process in that quagmire? It is de facto normalizing invasion and it seems like plenty of people have figured that out because now we have at least 20 million illegals roaming around, committing crimes with court dates years out. While they're here illegally, they get to enjoy benefits afforded to citizens, protection from law enforcement, pay no taxes and even commit crimes. Heck, some have even become LEOs themselves. No rational person thinks this is acceptable. Loons on the left do though, I'll admit that.
You will note that there is not an exception for "people who here illegally."
quote:It also plainly states "citizen." OTOH, it makes no provision whatsoever for ILLEGAL ALIEN
It plainly states "any person"
Here's a question - is the US within its rights to protect its borders for its own sovereignty? If you answer yes, then the US would be within its rights to even kill someone who doesn't stop trying to breach the border. If that's the case, then the 14th amendment makes complete sense within the context of "citizens" and there is no unecessary potential misinterpretation regarding illegals. Any people who are here illegally are at the mercy of the US government meaning, they can be deported without any due process because they shouldn't have even been here
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