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Posted on 9/6/18 at 7:50 am to
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 7:50 am to
It sounds more like someone who wants the readers to think it is Pence.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7941 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 7:50 am to
It's obvious Dan Rather wrote it.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 7:51 am to
No.

Actually, if it's Pence, it was at Trump's direction.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17927 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 7:52 am to
Probably a White House tour guide supervisor.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 7:53 am to
As I said, I suspect that all of this is a coordinated disinformation campaign. If more that one member of the WH staff will independently verify a story, no matter how outrageous, it can be pushed into the press and will likely get printed. Trump has had a coordinated campaign to discredit the press, as a check on his power, since day 1. The more outrageous the reporting, the more effective the attacks are. If WH staff get together to spread, and independently verify, crazy stories, then Trump can use those to attack.

That’s what I suspect is going on.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18595 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 7:55 am to
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is hannity news or opinion?


I’ll bite.

Hannity often offers his opinion to fill in gaps around facts, but he breaks news with credible sources like Sara carter. ( sorry - no obligatory pic. I’m driving).
This post was edited on 9/6/18 at 7:56 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28011 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 7:56 am to
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Stop trying to conflate journalism and opinion. It’s dangerous and hastens the downfall of our republic.


You like to argue over nothing. Your cardiologist will eventually advise against that.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35804 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 7:59 am to
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You like to argue over nothing. Your cardiologist will eventually advise against that.


He's met my wife so he knows that ship has sailed.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24259 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:14 am to
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Because the NYT’s reputation is beyond reproach.


This statement indicates a detachment from reality.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
8140 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:29 am to
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This statement indicates a detachment from reality.


No, the increasingly shrill screams from Trump’s supporters attacking reputable sources instead of the substance of a piece itself indicates reality problems. But let’s take a step back so I can better understand your position. Are you one of the ones who thinks the Times just makes shite and sources up on a large scale? Assuming this piece is 100% true, would you even find it controversial, problematic, or unexpected? Do you have the courage to answer that question?
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
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Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:36 am to
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71610 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:38 am to
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Probably a White House tour guide supervisor.


Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71610 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:39 am to
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attacking reputable sources instead of the substance of a piece


Whom is this you speak of?
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:39 am to
now THAT'S how you do a witch hunt
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
26518 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:41 am to
Now Politics has turned into sports gambling? Jesus Christ, the world is so fricked up these days
Posted by MSWebfoot
Hernando
Member since Oct 2011
3263 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:46 am to
My money is on that Omarosa chick. Still looking at upping her shitty book sales. She makes a statement at the end of her book close to what the op-ed says.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24259 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:06 pm to
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supporters attacking reputable sources instead of the substance of a piece itself indicates reality problems


We attack the source based on the substance of the piece, and the reputation of that trash gossip rag is the culmination of the substance of their work.

Try again. Or better yet, try to find some grounding in reality and reassess your position.
Posted by Bigtime92
Solsbury Hill
Member since Jan 2017
3688 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:16 pm to
It was written by John McCain, and set to be released posthumously.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:35 pm to
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Did you people even READ the op-ed? The writer goes out of his way to say he purposefully borrows the phrases and words of others in the WH to throw people off.


Can you quote that from the oped?
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
8140 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 11:07 pm to
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We attack the source based on the substance of the piece, and the reputation of that trash gossip rag is the culmination of the substance of their work. Try again. Or better yet, try to find some grounding in reality and reassess your position


Again, all you’ve shown us here is an obsessive proclivity to deflect as you mindlessly repeat your unsupported Fake News mantra. That is your lullaby and inoculation against reality. And now you’re also confirming your cowardice I suspected in my last post when I asked you a simple question which you could not answer. Unfortunately at this point, after accepting a great succession of your Leader’s baseless claims, you’ve likely become too brainwashed to form any kind of substantive argument or opinion on your own. Like the SJWs and many Trump supporters before you, you’re all emotions and have little interest in facts. Have a good night.
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