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re: Mark Meadows granted immunity, tells special counsel he warned Trump about 2020 claims.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:36 pm to Bass Tiger
Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:36 pm to Bass Tiger
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Trump claims he's ready to go to prison in his fight to dismantle the corrupt DC political system
Seems like it would be much easier to do from the White House than from the Big House.
He had his chance to Drain the Swamp. All he did was feed the swamp creatures and commit a bunch of felonies.
Time to move on.
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:40 pm to Bunk Moreland
Trump won and everyone knows it. The rats aren't going to 'produce' evidence to out themselves, (see Dr. Fauci) so the burden was left to the GOPe losers who were happy to rid themselves of Trump.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:41 pm to TigerAttorney
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they don’t have the money or spine to fight
If only someone would raise money for a legal defense fund.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:41 pm to Bunk Moreland
You guys remind me of the OJ Trail attorneys.
The DA had a mountain of evidence against Simpson but the Simpson attorneys tactic was to distract, blame others and do anything to get the jury to look away from the hard evidence.
The DA had a mountain of evidence against Simpson but the Simpson attorneys tactic was to distract, blame others and do anything to get the jury to look away from the hard evidence.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:41 pm to Bunk Moreland
I guarantee you more people know, or believe, Trump won 2020.
They know that a close examination of all mail-in ballots counted post election pause would not hold water.
They know that a close examination of all mail-in ballots counted post election pause would not hold water.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:42 pm to riccoar
Trump said he has the proof. I’m ready to see it. Maybe some of y’all aren’t.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:44 pm to ninthward
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1 still not a crime
That depends on how you divide up or combine the various behaviors.
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2 where are they?
In discovery that is subject to a gag order, currently, I reckon.
I believe there has been some leaks regarding certain members of the team doubting the veracity of the claims of the Krakeners.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:53 pm to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:56 pm to Bunk Moreland
ABC, laughed out loud and stopped reading.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:56 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Trump won and everyone knows it.
Everyone that is, except the people he hired to win the election on his behalf. And the people he hired to run the agencies that investigate such things. And the judges who he appointed to review the legal challenges.
Those people all say he lost.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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How will y'all spin it when communications made in real time show these doubts/warnings were genuine?
Just because they tried to cover it up doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. It is called political courage. These politicians don’t have it.
TIme Article About the Entire Plot
The idea they weren’t trying to undermine the system is ludicrous. The Time article is celebrating it.
All Trump did was call them out for trying to swindle the country. The article clearly discussed how they were trying to change the system. It is fact that the election rules were changed illegally/inappropriately making it less credible.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:56 pm to Bunk Moreland
Isn't grand jury testimony supposed to be secret?
I'm sure the prosecutor is looking hard to find the source of the leak.
I'm sure the prosecutor is looking hard to find the source of the leak.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 5:00 pm to Bunk Moreland
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he told them he agrees with a government assessment at the time that the 2020 presidential election was the most secure election in U.S. history.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 5:02 pm to Bunk Moreland
Trump “screwed up” big yet again when he didn’t retain me to lead his legal team. It didn’t take me long at all to come up with a high-octane plan of attack on this Meadows thing. Here’s just little taste:
Trump defense: “Yeah, I heard Mark say some things to that effect, and it didn’t change my mind.”
Boom. That’ll be $50,000. 50k every 1/12 hour is my rate.
Trump defense: “Yeah, I heard Mark say some things to that effect, and it didn’t change my mind.”
Boom. That’ll be $50,000. 50k every 1/12 hour is my rate.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 10/24/23 at 5:02 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Former President Donald Trump's final chief of staff in the White House, Mark Meadows, has spoken with special counsel Jack Smith's team at least three times this year, including once before a federal grand jury, which came only after Smith granted Meadows immunity to testify under oath, according to sources familiar with the matter.
The sources said Meadows informed Smith's team that he repeatedly told Trump in the weeks after the 2020 presidential election that the allegations of significant voting fraud coming to them were baseless, a striking break from Trump's prolific rhetoric regarding the election.
According to the sources, Meadows also told the federal investigators Trump was being "dishonest" with the public when he first claimed to have won the election only hours after polls closed on Nov. 3, 2020, before final results were in.
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ABC News has identified several assertions in the book that appear to be contradicted by what Meadows allegedly told investigators behind closed doors.
According to Meadows' book, the election was "stolen" and "rigged" with help from "allies in the liberal media," who ignored "actual evidence of fraud, right there in plain sight for anyone to access and analyze."
But, as described to ABC News, Meadows privately told Smith's investigators that -- to this day -- he has yet to see any evidence of fraud that would have kept now-president Joe Biden from the White House, and he told them he agrees with a government assessment at the time that the 2020 presidential election was the most secure election in U.S. history.
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But Meadows said that by mid-December, he privately informed Trump that Giuliani hadn't produced any evidence to back up the many allegations he was making, sources said. Then-attorney general Bill Barr also informed Trump and Meadows in an Oval Office meeting that allegations of election fraud were "not panning out," as Barr recounted in testimony to Congress last year.
SO IS 2000 MULES A FABRICATION OF EVIDENCE?
WE KNOW PEOPLE WHO MOVED RECIEVED MAIL IN BALLOTS...MY WIFE KNOWS A CO WORKER, HE SAID "
"IT WOULD BE SO EASY TO VOTE TWICE"
IN PENNSYLVANIA, IT WAS REPORTED BY AN ELECTION WORKER THAT THEY RECEIVED 1700 BALLOTS OF ADDRESSES THEY HAD NOT YET MAILED OUT..
- WHEN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HEAR THIS TIMES 100, WE BELIEVE IT.
NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND BELIEVES JOB BIDEN IS AMERICA'S ALL TIME MOST POPULAR PRESIDENT, 81M THAT BY ITSELF RAISES SERIOUS QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then you have people like Jeffries who said 2016 was fraudulant that led to a fradulant investigation for 22 months
I mean frick, I am pissed we have dummies who can say "Sir, there is no evidence of fraud"...how in the frick would Bill Bar know on short notice?
I hate out government...corrupt to the core and we're going to keep getting screwed
Posted on 10/24/23 at 5:02 pm to TigerAttorney
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This was always the plan. Shake down all the people surrounding Trump, they don’t have the money or spine to fight, then make Trump look wrong.
Why do you think they brought a RICO in GA? None of these people have the money to fight it besides Trump. They will all take deals and lie.
Wake up. It’s not about jail. It’s about stopping people from voting for him and suppressing the Truth of 2020
You are a crazy person.
Admitting the truth, that Biden was lawfully elected, and that Trump knowingly lied about massive election fraud, doesn't mean you support Hillary, Joe or Obama.
You can be a dedicated conservative and realize Trump is an evil, evil man.
It is okay.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 5:04 pm to TigerAttorney
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This was always the plan. Shake down all the people surrounding Trump, they don’t have the money or spine to fight, then make Trump look wrong.
This would make sense but we’re slowing getting to the place where the only people in Trump’s circle that will be left in the “election was rigged” camp will be Mike Lindell and Rudy Giuliani.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 5:06 pm to NC_Tigah
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Now do Obama's shovel ready projects, the excellence of Bidenomics, WMD in Iraq, etc.
How about instead let’s do “stay on the topic of the thread and now spiral out into the world of whataboutisms”
Posted on 10/24/23 at 5:08 pm to thejuiceisloose
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but we’re slowing getting to the place where the only people in Trump’s circle that will be left in the “election was rigged” camp will be Mike Lindell and Rudy Giuliani.
And all it took was a little mild political prosecution. No big deal.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 5:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
Trump laid the groundwork a year before the election when he started raising bogus potential election fraud issues and refused to say he would accept the results.
He knew his disciples would swallow the whole thing hook, line and sinker.
He knew his disciples would swallow the whole thing hook, line and sinker.
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