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re: RFK exposing more secrets by Big Pharma…
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:51 am to TigerDoc
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:51 am to TigerDoc
quote:I asked simple, facile questions that you have been avoiding for 20 pages. You said childish things like
read Flats's posts. He can challenge without the cray-cray
One at a time
Which one is most important?
Humor me
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:52 am to TigerDoc
quote:Genetic fallacy incoming
Bring it here and let's talk about it
THOSE DOCTORS ARE QUACKS. I SHOULD KNOW. I'M A REAL DOCTOR
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:56 am to TigerDoc
quote:
If a doc prescribes ivermectin as a standalone treatment for someone's covid and they have a bad outcome, with the literature that's out there now, they're going to need to settle.
What if you prescribe the vaccine as a stand alone and there is a bad outcome?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:57 am to BBONDS25
If you prescribe a vaccine as a treatment, you're fricked. It's a preventative. After you're sick it does frick-all.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:59 am to somethingdifferent
See bonds? - he brought a good faith question. You can do it.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:01 am to TigerDoc
quote:
What's your definition of a vaccine?
What's your definition of gene therapy?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:07 am to TigerDoc
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:09 am to Placekicker
What he said is false. He knows MAGA will lap it up. See this thread, for example
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:10 am to TigerDoc
What do you prescribe for Covid treatment?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:10 am to mooseofterror
Gene therapy means actually going into your DNA, your permanent genetic info and fixing or replacing a gene. That’s used for rare diseases like muscular dystrophy. mRNA vaccines don’t do that. They give your cells a short-lived set of instructions (think of a Post-It note you use for a brief, temporary instruction) to make a piece of the virus so your immune system can practice. The note gets shredded quickly and never touches your DNA.
Calling mRNA vaccines “gene therapy” is like calling a grocery list a cookbook rewrite. THey're not the same.
Calling mRNA vaccines “gene therapy” is like calling a grocery list a cookbook rewrite. THey're not the same.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:13 am to TigerDoc
please point to the long-term studies that support your claim of the COVID vaccine
Reverse-transcribed SARS-CoV-2 RNA can integrate into the genome of cultured human cells and can be expressed in patient-derived tissues
PNAS
Reverse-transcribed SARS-CoV-2 RNA can integrate into the genome of cultured human cells and can be expressed in patient-derived tissues
PNAS
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 11:23 am
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:17 am to crazy4lsu
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Holy shite, you don't even understand what you linked. Christ they aren't sending their best. Also that last example is drivel.
Don’t waste your time arguing with him. He actually doesn’t have any knowledge or independent thought. He just uses Chat GPT. Not kidding.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:20 am to TigerDoc
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If you prescribe a vaccine as a treatment, you're fricked. It's a preventative. After you're sick it does frick-all.
Are you fricked if you recommended the vax as a stand alone preventative and they still got covid and died? Or died from complications from the vax? fricked then?
What was the appropriate treatment when someone had Covid?
I’m asking in good faith. My family may all be docs…but I can’t handle seeing blood. I don’t know anything about medicine. There is a split in thoughts regarding the jab in my family.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 11:26 am
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:23 am to texag7
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What do you prescribe for Covid treatment?
Outpatient? Triage over telehealth if possible, assess each patient for risk factors, discuss symptom monitoring and then provide supportive care with antipyretics etc. if they have no or minimal risk factors for progression to serious illness.
For inpatient, depends on the presentation.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:24 am to mooseofterror
Perfect. Early on, it was reasonable to test ivermectin or even to prescribe it when there wasn't evidence of things that worked: it killed covid in the lab, was cheap, safe at standard doses, and small early trials looked promising, especially if given very early. But when the big, careful studies landed, they showed no meaningful benefit on symptoms, ER/hospital stays, etc. That's why guidelines moved on.
The debate felt so polarized because beliefs can split inside “trust networks”. With HCQ & Ivermectin, early ambiguous signals plus identity-linked messengers meant different groups of people each weighted evidence from their own different trusted sources, so even as better data arrived, networks updated in opposite directions. You can get durable polarization without bad faith, just with selective trust and feedback loops.
The debate felt so polarized because beliefs can split inside “trust networks”. With HCQ & Ivermectin, early ambiguous signals plus identity-linked messengers meant different groups of people each weighted evidence from their own different trusted sources, so even as better data arrived, networks updated in opposite directions. You can get durable polarization without bad faith, just with selective trust and feedback loops.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 11:25 am
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:25 am to onmymedicalgrind
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Don’t waste your time arguing with him.
It has been fun watching him describe the problems with peer review without actually mentioning any real problems. Muh transparency.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:26 am to BBONDS25
Ask him if he peer reviewed the Cleveland Clinic’s study.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:28 am to crazy4lsu
He will simply chat GPT “problems with peer review” and copy it here. He actually doesn’t know anything. Once he did that during our debate, I moved on
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