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re: Short, comprehensive video of what happened in Minneapolis ICE shooting
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:05 pm to EphesianArmor
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:05 pm to EphesianArmor
Thx, Brother. Looking forward to watching it.
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:09 pm to IvoryBillMatt
The commentary is very misleading.
I found these videos hosted on another site:
In the first video we can all see the driver of the Honda Pilot show disregard for her own wife who was trying to get into the vehicle as she backed up and accelerated. Was she trying to leave her wife behind? Why the need to back up if she was trying to leave? We can see she has an abundance of clearance needed to complete the turn. She’s driving a Honda Pilot, not a Greyhound bus.
In the slow motion video we can see the front tire losing traction as she accelerates around the 5 second mark. At that moment, the tires are pointing in the direction of the officer standing in front of the vehicle. That is when he unholsters. We can also see his feet sliding as if he were being pushed back. The first shot is fired around that time (accelerated towards the officer, then turns).
The officer might have tunnel vision under those circumstances. But if he had peripheral vision, he would see a fellow officer with hands still engaged with the vehicle’s door as the vehicle is accelerating. That is a risky situation for a fellow officer. Continuing the decision to fire is still legally justified because the threat has not stopped. A third shot is questionable but real life reaction time happens in fractions of a second.
I found these videos hosted on another site:
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If tweet fails to load, click here. In the first video we can all see the driver of the Honda Pilot show disregard for her own wife who was trying to get into the vehicle as she backed up and accelerated. Was she trying to leave her wife behind? Why the need to back up if she was trying to leave? We can see she has an abundance of clearance needed to complete the turn. She’s driving a Honda Pilot, not a Greyhound bus.
In the slow motion video we can see the front tire losing traction as she accelerates around the 5 second mark. At that moment, the tires are pointing in the direction of the officer standing in front of the vehicle. That is when he unholsters. We can also see his feet sliding as if he were being pushed back. The first shot is fired around that time (accelerated towards the officer, then turns).
The officer might have tunnel vision under those circumstances. But if he had peripheral vision, he would see a fellow officer with hands still engaged with the vehicle’s door as the vehicle is accelerating. That is a risky situation for a fellow officer. Continuing the decision to fire is still legally justified because the threat has not stopped. A third shot is questionable but real life reaction time happens in fractions of a second.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:10 pm to Cromulent
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You realize that person you speak of was her girlfriend/wife. You knew that. Every post of yours is passive aggressive bullshite. Same every single time.
What the hell are you talking about? I didn't realize that was she. I'm always straightforward.
The civilians generally in the videos I've seen exhibit much more of a sense of urgency than do the law enforcement professionals. You don't find that weird?
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:14 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Did you or did you not do this same thing yesterday with another video? You did. It was a bullshite slanted video and you were trying to be coy about it. You did the same today with this. That's what I'm talking about.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:14 pm to Willie Stroker
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The commentary is very misleading.
Thanks, Willie. I hadn't seen those. Will take a look at halftime.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:17 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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And had just dropped off her son at daycare (school?).
And then let her wife talk her into harassing ICE agents. LINK
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She can also be heard blaming herself for her lover’s death while crying out, “I made her come down here, it’s my fault. They just shot my wife.”
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:19 pm to SirWinston
I’m pretty sure those ice agents were familiar with that stupid bitch
She had been harassing them before
Trying to block vehicles
FAFO
She had been harassing them before
Trying to block vehicles
FAFO
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:22 pm to Willie Stroker
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"They just shot my wife.”
This is comical.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:41 pm to IvoryBillMatt
It's actually a little tamer than what I would expect from the NYT.
One thing they blatantly failed to mention is the fact that when she first tried to take off, the agent WAS in front of the vehicle and her wheels were pointed straight. Fortunately for the agent (and unfortunately for her), the wheels slipped or the agent would have been run over.
Given the fact she then turned her wheels, I doubt she was intentionally trying to run him down. She is just another stupid white leftist chick panicking when confronted with the consequences of her actions. Blocking federal agents doing their job isn't going to turn out the same as blocking Joe Random Citizen trying to get to work.
He was really quick to draw and shoot, but I can't say I wouldn't have done the same if placed in the same situation.
One thing they blatantly failed to mention is the fact that when she first tried to take off, the agent WAS in front of the vehicle and her wheels were pointed straight. Fortunately for the agent (and unfortunately for her), the wheels slipped or the agent would have been run over.
Given the fact she then turned her wheels, I doubt she was intentionally trying to run him down. She is just another stupid white leftist chick panicking when confronted with the consequences of her actions. Blocking federal agents doing their job isn't going to turn out the same as blocking Joe Random Citizen trying to get to work.
He was really quick to draw and shoot, but I can't say I wouldn't have done the same if placed in the same situation.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:42 pm to IvoryBillMatt
They’re like in this one video it looks like he’s being hit, but in this other one it doesn’t look like he’s been run over. Well first of all, he was hit. We know he wasn’t run over. Second, in the second video, the reason he didn’t
Appear to be hit is that the dude in front is blocking the view. What a strange propaganda. He was hit. Period. In his hands, but still.
Appear to be hit is that the dude in front is blocking the view. What a strange propaganda. He was hit. Period. In his hands, but still.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:44 pm to hogcard1964
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This is comical.
Her guilt for contributing to the death of her wife should be overwhelming.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:45 pm to RCDfan1950
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It’s all nitpicking, IB, and people will choose to what to think. But the bottom line is that the ‘Protesters’ have chosen to become physical obstructionists against LE. And once they cross that line the blame of hurt is on them. Not saying that they don’t have the right to make a physical stand but they should be ready to accept responsibility for what comes with it.
It makes me think of how sports events give you warnings, as the ticket bearer, to keep your head on a swivel to exempt them from your own carelessness. The same idea should be applied to "protesting". Know the risks in inserting yourself in harm's way. Or, for a lack of better way to put it: In the decision of comply or die, she chose not to comply.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:46 pm to baybeefeetz
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:57 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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The guidelines suggest that he shouldn't have put himself in that position
He didn’t put himself in that position, she did. His physical position never changed. He was standing on the right passenger side of the vehicle UNTIL SHE CHANGED THE PHYSICAL POSITION OF THE VEHICLE, PUTTING HIM DIRECTLY IN HER PATH!! It was only when he found himself head up, mere feet away from the front end of her car did he ever touch his sidearm. She then ran him over and got every last single thing she deserved. She is dead because of her own stupid decisions and delusions that made her think she could ride around town harassing law enforcement with a 3000 pound weapon because she was a social justice super hero. She wasn’t a super hero, she was a fool who’s imaginary world collided with reality
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:58 pm to IvoryBillMatt
I am confused by your rhetorical framing here:
Regardless of how you or I view the video evidence, the key legal question at play here will be whether the DHS can show that an officer in that situation could have reasonably perceived an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm.
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I just don't think it serves a useful purpose when you have false claims that Renee Good attacked federal "officers" (plural)
Regardless of how you or I view the video evidence, the key legal question at play here will be whether the DHS can show that an officer in that situation could have reasonably perceived an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:58 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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If he were out of the way, how could he still be in danger? If it was because of proximity and crazy behavior, why did none of the other agents shoot at her?
His first shot was as he was being hit by the car.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:06 pm to GetMeOutOfHere
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After he started to jump out of the way and the car had already started moving towards where he was. It still hit him. Right before the car started moving, this is what it looked like:
This was after she reversed. Her wheel was turned way left when reversing. As she began to move forward (after switching from reverse to drive) she turned her wheel to the right.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:09 pm to IvoryBillMatt
The breakdown of that video without the other angles is 100% misleading. The officer in front of the vehicle was struck by the vehicle and fired through the windshield. He was mostly in front of a weaponized vehicle when he drew his weapons and fired the first round.
100000% justified.
100000% justified.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:09 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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He didn’t put himself in that position. His physical position never changed. He was standing on the right passenger side of the vehicle
He was literally circling the car counterclockwise.
Did you get your information from Kristie Noem?
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She then ran him over
Huh? What? See above
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She is dead because of her own stupid decisions
Agreed.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:18 pm to IvoryBillMatt
I was on the Ice agents side until that video. She had the wheel turned away from the ICE agent and the guy shot her. He wasn’t fearful of his life. He was upset that she disobeyed his order. This isn’t political to me. It’s about right vs wrong. The woman should be in jail, not dead.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 8:25 pm
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