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Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:46 pm to loogaroo
Your interpretation of what happened today is irrelevant, that’s what courts will do.
But to the point, you think a Dem admin (which of course means they’ll be in charge of DOJ and DHS) is going to protect agents who commit crimes?
If you do I got a bridge to sell ya….
But to the point, you think a Dem admin (which of course means they’ll be in charge of DOJ and DHS) is going to protect agents who commit crimes?
If you do I got a bridge to sell ya….
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:47 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Look at the 1:13 mark of the OP. Watch the black object fall and bounce off the ground. Could possible be a second weapon
He had a second mag. Potentially that.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:50 pm to mwade91383
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But to the point, you think a Dem admin (which of course means they’ll be in charge of DOJ and DHS) is going to protect agents who commit crimes?
If they’re shooting conservative natural born citizens, the Dem admin will give them bonuses and medals.
I don’t know why yall try to scare us with hypotheticals that have already happened.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:51 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
The guy clearly has something in both hands. When he comes to his knees he has something in his hand that to me appears to be a knife but could be a smaller pistol. Something triggered them all to run back and the first shot to take place. I think the scuffle is over whatever is in the guys hands. Be nice to have the video of when and why it started.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:51 pm to Azkiger
Look at the officers hands on the ground engaged with the suspect. It appears they were both struggling over this object. When the shots are fired it looks as if both let go and it hits the ground.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:53 pm to the808bass
Do you really think what happened today never ends up on court?
That’s what the question was, to be clear.
That’s what the question was, to be clear.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:54 pm to burger bearcat
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The entire conversation should be focused on why on earth do ICE agents have to control these idiots to begin with? That’s where the conversation should start
We all know the answer to that: Tweedledee and Tweedledum.
Another focus should be on how 5 or 6 officers were not able to subdue an individual that they ultimately determined was a lethal threat. It looked more like a bar-room brawler scrum than a lawful apprehension.
Some officers appeared to be standing by unsure of what to do while others jumped immediately in and intervened. The disorganization suggests either inadequate training or a breakdown in protocol — either way, it was a clusterf#ck waiting to happen.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:55 pm to oldskule
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The guns seemed to be removed from his holster as he is being shot? Did I see that right?
I agree, looks to me another ice/law enforcement pulled the gun from the holster.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:58 pm to mwade91383
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Your interpretation of what happened today is irrelevant, that’s what courts will do.
And...I'm saying the state has no jurisdiction on this incident.
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But to the point, you think a Dem admin (which of course means they’ll be in charge of DOJ and DHS) is going to protect agents who commit crimes?
You just contradicted yourself.
quote:remember?
that’s what courts will do
Ask SFP what will happen currently.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:58 pm to mwade91383
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Do you really think what happened today never ends up on court?
I didn’t say that. It very well could end up in court. Just like the shooting of Ashli Babbit could’ve gone to court. (I think these two events are pretty similar, actually.)
Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:59 pm to loogaroo
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I'm saying the state has no jurisdiction on this incident.
I don’t think this is true at all. Why couldn’t Minnesota try to charge him with murder?
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:08 pm to the808bass
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I don’t think this is true at all. Why couldn’t Minnesota try to charge him with murder?
They might, but from what I understand it will ultimately end up being up to the DOJ.
Waiting on SFP to opine.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:08 pm to the808bass
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I don’t think this is true at all. Why couldn’t Minnesota try to charge him with murder?
I think it's the supremacy clause but the reason I tend to believe it is there have been no ICE/DHS officers brought up on charges yet (after 12 months). I rather doubt Dems in power would exhibit restraint in doing so, if they have the authority.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:15 pm to TBoy
quote:No you dum@&$?, what I’m saying is if you go to a protest, and you “get involved” with LEOs and there’s physical interaction, you better know there will be consequences,,,,,he made a choice to exercise his rights but he also made a decision when he interacted with the cops who are supercharged
Are you saying that any right winger who legally carries a gun to an event or protest can be shot dead?
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:19 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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Another focus should be on how 5 or 6 officers were not able to subdue an individual that they ultimately determined was a lethal threat. It looked more like a bar-room brawler scrum than a lawful apprehension.
The answer to this is that you’ve clearly never been in this situation before. It wasn’t that much time. I’m sure they could have done things better. But handling and detaining an adult that doesn’t want to be detained is an extremely dangerous and difficult situation. It simply takes some time to get them controlled even with 3,4+ people.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:22 pm to baldona
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But handling and detaining an adult that doesn’t want to be detained is an extremely dangerous and difficult situation. It simply takes some time to get them controlled even with 3,4+ people.
Watch body cam videos on youtube and you will see that even a determined and amped up female can take 4 or 5 men to subdue her
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:41 pm to mwade91383
No it’s not but keep pushing the narrative.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:53 pm to baldona
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I’m sure they could have done things better.
If “they could’ve done better” is your takeaway, we aren’t having much of a disagreement. Yet from my perspective, a lack of training and/or situational awareness clearly contributed to that outcome.
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The answer to this is that you’ve clearly never been in this situation before.
The ICE officers themselves shouldn’t have been in that situation either. Don’t ignore my prefatory comments about the complicity of Walz and Frey in fostering this violent chaos in the streets.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 10:35 pm to stout
Especially when the suspect is on drugs. Remember George Floyd’s struggle while he was high on fentanyl.
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