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re: Tim Walz denied Catholic schools' request for security?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:00 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:00 pm to 4cubbies
quote:And why i support people who send their kids to private school should get a tax cut. They are forced to pay for nothing in return.
The government generally provides security for public buildings, not private buildings
If the city won't pay or isn't responsible for their kids protection, then tax money they pay in to educate/secure public school kids should be returned.
Quid pro quo.
Goes the same for neighborhoods that have to pay for security patrols in their area, because there local PD is stretched thin and rarely seen in their area.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 8:04 pm
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:07 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Ehhh, should the government subsidize all private organizations?
The protection of children should be a special case regardless of whether kids are in a private or public school. Their parents' tax dollars still get paid into the system, do they not?
You have no issue with the government subsidizing wife-beating illegal aliens, but don't want the government protecting Catholic children? Pretty fricked up.
The evil of you leftists always shines through.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:22 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
I’m not familiar with this but I don’t support taxes paying for the overhead of private organizations.
So you don't support any federal funding of planned parenthood? That's surprising.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:24 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
the small government conservatives will be here to explain how using public money to pay for the private security of private organizations is a tenet of small government conservativism.
That money was allocated by the state government for school protection. Public schools districts have to pay the police department for security like privates do from funds from the various school districts. Here, the state was using excess funds from taxes collected other than those collected for funding public schools to protect school children. Waltz made the decision to ignore private schools and only supplement public schools.
So the way you framed your initial post was inaccurate. If the question is the role of government, it is whether the state government should use tax revenue to supplement school security. If the answer to that question is yes, then it should not be delineated between public and private.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:25 pm to SallysHuman
quote:
Wow.. Is anyone actually opposed to protecting Muslim school students
Me
They are indoctrinated to hate the United States.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:25 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
I attended private school pk-12 grade and I think I heard my mom complain about property taxes once in all those years.
Thanks for the response. Your mother's lack of complaining doesn't change the distinction between endeavors that the state taxes for and those that it does not.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:27 pm to nealnan8
quote:
The government should not give religious private schools funds for any reason.
What if this was a Muslim School in Dearborn. MI, and they needed funds for protecting children from Muslim haters?
The fact that many of you can't see this very slippery slope is incredible
This is the only correct answer. It's alarming how shortsighted the majority here are.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:28 pm to Dex Morgan
quote:
They are indoctrinated to hate the United States.
Yeah, that's a problem... doesn't inspire me to make soft targets of children though.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:33 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
Ehhh, should the government subsidize all private organizations?
1) When/where did it all go so wrong for you?
2) But, of course, I bet you would never admit to having voted for him and Cackles. right?
Seek help.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:40 pm to Dex Morgan
quote:
The government should not give religious private schools funds for any reason.
What if this was a Muslim School in Dearborn. MI, and they needed funds for protecting children from Muslim haters?
The fact that many of you can't see this very slippery slope is incredible
This is the only correct answer. It's alarming how shortsighted the majority here are.
AS much as I hate Walz and think he's a big part of the problem, I just can't state that it is the state's requirement to offer security to a private school. Should the state be required to offer security for each home schooled child?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:52 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
the small government conservatives will be here to explain how using public money to pay for the private security of private organizations is a tenet of small government conservativism.
The absolute moron that knowingly and willingly has sex with homeless people and pretends to care about schools and children is already in here proving she doesn’t.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:29 pm to Red Stick Rambler
One solution is to MOVE. Sam Kinneson yelling 
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:33 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
My pointing out the hypocrisy of the “small government types” who have consistently been begging for more government intrusion apparently bugs you.
Nothing about you bugs me. I'd have to take you seriously for that to be the case.
quote:
When I point out the hypocrisy and contradictions of the board, I rarely espouse my personal beliefs.
You did this time. And I quote:
quote:
My position is that public money should not fund overhead for private organizations.
Except you were lying, weren't you?
And that is why I do not take you seriously, and neither should anyone else.
quote:
You can make whatever emotional appeals you want in attemtps to justify your hypocrisy but it’s still hypocrisy.
Exactly what did I say that was hypocritical?
See, now the woman brain is kicking in.
Your amygdala is working overtime and the truth is like a blurry dim light at the end of a dark tunnel that doesn't seem at all important to focus on while your emotions lead you to say anything that comes to mind in the whirling tornado of your feels.
quote:
What exactly are you accusing me of supporting?
I'm accusing you of acting like cutting unnecessary government bloat—whether we're talking about government employees or employees of private organizations subsidized by the government—was the greatest travesty in the history of the country, but here now claiming repeatedly that you support small government and do not support government subsidizing private organizations.
Why did I have to explain that again? Why wasn't that already clear?
Woman brain?
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:33 pm to Red Stick Rambler
Don’t argue with the liberals on here. Just sit back, smile and watch their melt continue.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:45 pm to 4cubbies
I can only imagine the 72 different meds you are on.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:51 pm to 4cubbies
Appropriate education
fricking joke.
fricking joke.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:56 pm to East Coast Band
Offer?
It's a fricking grant
Not a frick ng offer.
It's a fricking grant
Not a frick ng offer.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:18 pm to 4cubbies
Private school parents are required to pay taxes for public schools just like everyone else. But since their kids don’t go to the public schools, they are basically freeing up tuition tax dollars, tax dollars they already paid. (Then they ALSO pay the private school tuition.)
For example:
According to U.S. News & World Report, Minneapolis Public Schools spends $20,268 per student each year. This is the closest figure to the "tax dollar price" of public school.
So for every kid who goes to that catholic school in Minneapolis, the government saves 20,268 dollars/ year.
So, yes, they should provide them with as much security as they want.
For example:
According to U.S. News & World Report, Minneapolis Public Schools spends $20,268 per student each year. This is the closest figure to the "tax dollar price" of public school.
So for every kid who goes to that catholic school in Minneapolis, the government saves 20,268 dollars/ year.
So, yes, they should provide them with as much security as they want.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:15 am to HagaDaga
quote:
If the city won't pay or isn't responsible for their kids protection, then tax money they pay in to educate/secure public school kids should be returned. Quid pro quo.
If the person ever interacts with anyone providing any type of service who was educated by public school, we’d have to then bill the person who declined public education for their kids to cover the public education that enabled the service provider to competently do their job. This will get extremely granular to accommodate the people who willingly declined a government service and are upset that they aren’t getting compensated for declining that service.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 7:24 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:
doesn't change the distinction between endeavors that the state taxes for and those that it does not.
The notable distinction is that people choosing to decline public education know they are also declining the SRO at the public school they are declining. No one who declines public school believes the public school will provide a SRO at the private school of their choosing. That’s a condition this board started supporting yesterday because of feelings.
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