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re: Update: Situation in Iran thread
Posted on 2/12/26 at 9:05 am to Penrod
Posted on 2/12/26 at 9:05 am to Penrod
Trump wants a deal so that he can beat Obama and Biden over the head with his deal making ability. Your assumption is that the Mullahs will honor any deal they make. If they do, it will be the first time. In the end , Trump will hit a brick wall of resistance and he’ll give up and pull the forces out.
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 9:08 am to ScottFowler
quote:Interesting thoughts. I agree with most of that. If him retiring meant the end of his beggar routine and influence peddling and that somehow solved his legal problems, great.
Netanyahu owns enough of Congress that to get anything done, he must be appeased. I also think that this may be a part of a deal to have Net leave the stage "willingly", retire, and we can put an end to Israeli influence. This would be a solution to the legal problems that Net faces back at home. No Iran, then no need to interfere in US affairs for Isreal's own safety.
However, I think the congressional addiction to AIPAC dollars along with (some) millennial dispensational views shared by them and their constituents will not allow for any great change. The Likud and ‘Greater Israel’ squad will not fade away much. Netanyahu will still have great influence from the shadows even if he stepped down.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 9:10 am to Tantal
quote:Sure, but China stills holds the championship belt, yes?
Israel IS asshoe.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 9:18 am to Reagan80
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Trump wants a deal so that he can beat Obama and Biden over the head with his deal making ability.
Or is it that your own arrogance hopes Trump and the US fail and we get a nuke shoved up our arse......
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Your assumption is that the Mullahs will honor any deal they make.
Of course they wont, why do you think we are moving half the military assets of the world to within striking distance..........
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If they do, it will be the first time. In the end , Trump will hit a brick wall of resistance and he’ll give up and pull the forces out.
You have confused Trump with obama/biden....
Posted on 2/12/26 at 9:24 am to Reagan80
quote:That may well happen. Just my opinion, but I don’t think he is enamored by Netanyahu as much as people think. The President has an ego like no other, and it’s hard to imagine that he wants any appearance that he is doing this (only) in the interest of Israel. Maybe this is the reason for delay, maybe not. He already knows Iran is an a-hole so there must be another angle(?) The large show of force would be hard to walk back.
Trump will hit a brick wall of resistance and he’ll give up and pull the forces out.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 9:24 am to Pragmatist2025
AIPAC gave about 100million to congress last year, that would make them 17th by industry in lobbying dollars. They arent this all powerful entity everyone purports them to be.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 9:34 am to trinidadtiger
quote:Oh, not “all-powerful”. The MIC, Tech, Pharma & Energy sectors are probably bigger influence peddlers. Israeli or Jewish lobbies may be 17th in contributions but you’d have to admit they get a pretty big bang out of their buck (and they also are involved in the 4 that I mentioned).
They arent this all powerful entity everyone purports them to be.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 9:35 am to Pragmatist2025
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Sure, but China stills holds the championship belt, yes?
China hasn't dragged us into numerous wars costing trillions.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 10:52 am to Tantal
This info just came out in the last hour or so.
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Posted on 2/12/26 at 10:58 am to Tantal
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China hasn't dragged us into numerous wars costing trillions.
Yea, China just tries to infiltrate and destroy us from the inside out without directly confronting us.....the end result is the same it is just a more cowardly and evil method.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 11:01 am to geoag58
OK, now everyone factor into the equation - Russia teaming up with USA..
hmm. a lot of things are starting to come together...
hmm. a lot of things are starting to come together...
Posted on 2/12/26 at 11:21 am to Reagan80
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Your assumption is that the Mullahs will honor any deal they make.
Whoa! I’ve never made, nor implied, such an assumption. Plus, I don’t believe it.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 11:25 am to Tantal
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China hasn't dragged us into numerous wars costing trillions.
Their release of the virus cost the world trillions.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 12:41 pm to Tantal
quote:You making a solid case.
China hasn't dragged us into numerous wars costing trillions.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 2:41 pm to Pragmatist2025
Posted on 2/12/26 at 3:05 pm to trinidadtiger
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They arent this all powerful entity everyone purports them to be.
They leverage that money with a wholly-controlled media and social media that carries their water too.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 5:42 pm to Pragmatist2025
The MIC is a shitton smaller than it was before 1993. Anyone claiming it has power is clueless AF.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 9:19 pm to CitizenK
It appears that Islamic Republic has selected it's hill to die on.
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