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Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:43 pm to
I trust Orange on this.

Theyre operating with way more of a full picture.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:48 pm to
On one hand, Trump settling America's overdue scores in a limited fashion that makes the entire academic-defense class go "wait you can just do that?" is appealing.

On the other hand *gestures around generally toward decades of fruitless American hubris*
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 7:55 pm to
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Well, here's a few hundred thousand Venezuelan and Persian women


Never thought I'd have a chance at a Persian lady Got to have a Russian. Need a Venezuelan, Cuban and North Korean.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:04 pm to
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Need a Venezuelan


From personal experience with a Venezuelan lady, an absolute wild cat in the bed who loved drinking Bud heavies. You sit your beer down around her, it wouldn’t be there long.. I remember sitting my beer down one night to take a piss. I come back 30 seconds later and she’s smashed her beer down and was topping her empty glass back off with my new beer
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:09 pm to
Orange has some leverage against Khamenei

That’s the only reason I see that would make Khamenei not go through with the executions & more killings, all while knowing the US continues to build their forces in the region. It’s like Orange showed Khamenei a picture of his super secret hideout or something. But if Khamenei knows he’s a dead man walking anyway, why show mercy at all? Maybe a deal was made to have democratic elections in Iran for his life?
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:11 pm to
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one hand, Trump settling America's overdue scores in a limited fashion that makes the entire academic-defense class go "wait you can just do that?" is appealing.


It’s really shown the incompetence of our leadership for decades. Either incompetence or unwillingness to actually fix anything since WW2.

Vietnam, Korea, Iran Contra, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc all gigantic clusterfricks. Even Reagan who I love didnt accomplish what Trump did with Isis, Venezuela, and soon to be Iran. Though he gets credit for the fall of the USSR but that was simply us outspending them and letting communism come to its eventual demise.

Nobody since Truman dropped the nukes on Japan has used the might of our military as effectively as Trump to accomplish quick and decisive results with minimal casualties of Americans
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:14 pm to
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To all of our friends around the world,

Under the yoke of the Islamic Republic, Iran is identified in your minds with terrorism, extremism, and poverty. The real Iran is a different Iran. A beautiful, peace-loving, and flourishing Iran.

It is the Iran that existed before the Islamic Republic, and it is the Iran that will rise again from its ashes the day the Islamic Republic falls.

So let me be clear about how a free Iran will act toward its neighbors and the world, after the fall of this regime.

In security and foreign policy, Iran’s nuclear military program will end. Support for terrorist groups will cease immediately. A free Iran will work with regional and global partners to confront terrorism, organized crime, drug trafficking, and extremist Islamism.

Iran will act as a friend and a stabilizing force in the region. And it will be a responsible partner in global security.

In diplomacy, relations with the United States will be normalized and our friendship with America and her people will be restored. The State of Israel will be recognized immediately. We will pursue the expansion of the Abraham Accords into the Cyrus accords bringing together a free Iran, Israel, and the Arab world.

A new chapter will begin, grounded in mutual recognition, sovereignty, and national interest.

In energy, Iran holds some of the largest oil and gas reserves in the world. A free Iran will become a reliable energy supplier to the free world. Policy-making will be transparent. Iran’s actions will be responsible. Prices will be predictable.

In transparency and governance, Iran will adopt and enforce international standards. Money laundering will be confronted. Organized corruption will be dismantled. Public institutions will answer to the people.

In the economy, Iran is one of the world’s last great untapped markets. Our population is educated, modern, with a diaspora that connects it to the four corners of the world. A democratic Iran will open its economy to trade, investment, and innovation. And Iran will seek to invest in the world.

Opportunity will replace isolation.

This is not an abstract vision. It is a practical one. Grounded in national interest, stability, and cooperation.
To achieve this, now is the time to stand with the Iranian people. The fall of the Islamic Republic and the establishment of a secular, democratic government in Iran will not only restore dignity to my people, it will benefit the region and the world.

A free Iran will be a force for peace. For prosperity. And for partnership.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:17 pm to
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Maybe a deal was made to have democratic elections in Iran for his life?

I’m apparently not the only one thinking that way

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Is it possible that @realDonaldTrump made a deal to let @Khamanei_ir2 and son leave Iran?

This would explain why President Trump has stated that ‘The killing has stopped,” and why he is holding off on the attack for now. The skies could not be reopened above Iran without total certainty that there would be no attack.

The pause would of course allow Khamanei to seek safe passage to Moscow.

To be clear, this is a total speculation.

I welcome the experts weighing in.
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 8:18 pm
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:17 pm to
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Never thought I'd have a chance at a Persian lady


I hooked up with a Persian Jewish girl in medical school.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:28 pm to
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They no longer have the ability to develop and assemble a nuke. It doesn’t matter if they managed to move the raw materials like uranium


They never seem to mention the fact that Mossad smoked all their nuclear physicists as well. Kinda hard to have a nuclear program with Bob the Muslim cleric trying to enrich Uranium-235.

Posted by ned nederlander
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:34 pm to
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It’s really shown the incompetence of our leadership for decades. Either incompetence or unwillingness to actually fix anything since WW2.


It might also just be really hard to break apart a despotic regime and not have the country experience a period of intense turmoil/civil war.

Iraq
Afghanistan
Libya
Syria
Myanmar
Cambodia

Are recent examples where it’s been a bit rocky to say the least.

South American countries for whatever reason seem to rebound from dictatorship better than Asian countries.
Posted by Victor R Franko
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:36 pm to
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Wait until Trump is out of office, Israel is likely to get the living shite bombed out of them by China and Russia.

If China or Russia, or both start intensive bombing of Israel, Israel goes nuclear, you can bet your arse on that. As a minimum, Beijing or Moscow, or both can kiss the baby.
Posted by SlickRick55
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:36 pm to
I am so damn confused at this point. I know war is extremely complex, but one post says jets are taking off, the next says negotiations on the table, the next the regime tells us to go get fricked, the next we’re refueling in the air.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:39 pm to
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I’m going to assume this carrier group has been on the way for a minute now. It would seem pretty stupid to start moving assets into the regions a week or so ago and not begin moving the carrier group also.

It was verified by satellite to be in the South China Sea region today.
Posted by klrstix
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:42 pm to
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Even Reagan who I love didnt accomplish what Trump did with Isis, Venezuela, and soon to be Iran. Though he gets credit for the fall of the USSR but that was simply us outspending them and letting communism come to its eventual demise.


IMO.. the dissolution of the USSR make the thing Trump has accomplished possible...

Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:42 pm to
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Wait until Trump is out of office, Israel is likely to get the living shite bombed out of them by China and Russia. They won’t do it now while Trump is in.

you are aware that israel has nukes right
Posted by OU Guy
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:43 pm to
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 8:45 pm to
Chinese plane appears to have landed i. Tehran possibly. Maybe they are evacuating some friends?
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