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re: Why are NH and Maine liberal states?

Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2400 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:35 pm to
NH is a continuous disappointment on the National Level.
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3584 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:37 pm to
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Gorgeous state, beautiful small towns. The rural parts of Maine are conservative as could be. Get down to the coast and near Portland and it's woke land.


^^^
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32121 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:38 pm to
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They live in a white eutopia


I went to Maine and NH this last fall.

Trans and BLM flags everywhere (I’m sure there were gay people) but absolutely 0 black people around. Portland had a few but that was it.

For fun we looked at the costs of houses around Portland, Portsmouth, Manchester, and Cape Elizabeth.

Everything is ungodly expensive. Like only obtainable by generational wealth expensive, especially in Cape Elizabeth.

No wonder they’re all socialist. They’re working in a community and serving rich people that own things they could never dream of.

Also, urban crime , immigration, failing schools, and crumbling infrastructure doesn’t touch them.

So people that do have to be around those things and decry it seem heartless to bleeding hearts.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5400 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:40 pm to
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Minnesota confuses the hell out of me.



Heavy Nordic population (traditionally) and they are very socialist by nature of their heritage. Small village, protectionist attitude and orientation.

An idea that falls apart at scale and with the introduction of outsiders.
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
1950 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:40 pm to
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From the little time I've spent there, they're stuck in the 60's. They still think democrats represent the counter culture. They haven't caught up politically.

I bet if you polled a lot of them you'd find that they're classical liberals instead of woke liberals, and are more closely aligned with libertarians than they think.


Yep, been my experience as well. Met up with a few Vermont folks on the trail, pretty nice people, more old school lib than anything. Yet, they latch on to the national mainstream media and NPR for information. Of course the message on those outlets are 24/7 Orange man is BAD.
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
1950 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:43 pm to
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Heavy Nordic population (traditionally) and they are very socialist by nature of their heritage. Small village, protectionist attitude and orientation.

An idea that falls apart at scale and with the introduction of outsiders.


True. yet also look at that state map for the 2020 election. Lots and lots of red outside the Twin Cities and Duluth. The rural areas just don't quite have the numbers to overcome the urban vote. It's not unlike Washington or Oregon.
Posted by SirWinston
Kid Rock sucks
Member since Jul 2014
103603 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:45 pm to
Lots of retirees from Boston and NYC
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
14175 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:47 pm to
Massachusetts assholes move there for low taxes.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16298 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:48 pm to
They have a large environmental constituency

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25803 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:49 pm to
Both are very poor states with a lot of people on welfare of various kinds.

Once drove down the western side of Maine after a camping trip to Moosehead Lake. The back country showed a lot of signs of poverty with lawns overgrown, cars abandoned in the yard, houses unpainted and other signs of neglect. Then things gradually started looking better the center of which was a very old fish canning plant that was still in business and providing employment.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62575 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:49 pm to
They want to keep black people out. That’s the primary motivator.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:55 pm to
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Minnesota confuses the hell out of me.


Nearly 60% of the state lives in the greater Minnesota/St Paul area.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118054 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:59 pm to
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Both are very poor states with a lot of people on welfare of various kinds.


Especially in the winter.
Posted by Usmc
Member since Oct 2024
435 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:25 pm to
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Massachusetts assholes move there for low taxes.

This, the people I've know from Maine and the experiences I've had when I go visit are overwhelming anything but left. Massachusetts is the nail in the heart of new England and I can't be convinced otherwise.
Posted by Elihu
Member since Dec 2020
1389 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:28 pm to
I’ve been to both states. Didn’t like either of them. Seemed like every church up there had a homo flag flying on it. It was very bizarre.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
26794 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:55 pm to
Because they have little to no “culture” issues. They have no idea what life is like outside of their bubbles.
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
6921 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:57 pm to
We should ship some of New Orleans, Baton Rouge, and Shreveport up to them and maybe they’ll have a change of heart.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
14988 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:09 pm to
Boston Urban Sprawl
Posted by jladne3
Seabrook, TX
Member since Nov 2010
1299 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:33 pm to
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NH isn’t. It’s an odd state. No income tax. Pretty loose gun laws. Pretty sure no seatbelt law Very low regulation


“Live Free or Die” - NH
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2627 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:12 pm to
More educated?
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