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The Left: Tariffs are the new sexy, and Trump was right...

Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:22 am
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6497 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:22 am
https://prospect.org/2026/01/14/trump-tariffs-china-tax-economy-inflation/
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By raising tariffs, based on no pattern other than his own resentments and whims, Trump presumably has done serious economic damage. According to the authoritative Yale Budget Lab, Trump’s policies have raised the average tariff rate from about 2.4 percent in late 2024 to 17 percent by late 2025, the highest in nearly a century.

A disaster, right?

Go on?
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Well, maybe not quite. And herein lies both an interesting economic mystery as well as possible lessons for the next Democratic administration.

For starters, inflation is running below projections. In December, the just-announced inflation rate was 2.7 percent. The Fed’s favorite indicator was unchanged from November when the core inflation rate, at 2.6 percent, was the lowest since 2021.

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Tariffs have had surprisingly little impact on higher consumer prices. “Tariff pass-through to consumers has been much milder than anticipated,” Olu Sonola, head of U.S. economic research at Fitch Ratings, wrote in a recent research note. Yet revenue from tariffs brought in close to $300 billion in 2025, up from about $80 billion in 2024, and is currently on track to produce over $350 billion this year.

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The evidence suggests that most costs are being absorbed by foreign exporters or by domestic sellers accepting lower profit margins. And since the actual tariffs on different countries are a crazy quilt of different rates, producers have also become expert at shifting their supply chains to countries with relatively lower tariffs.

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Thanks in part to the tariffs, the chronic U.S. global trade deficit has been shrinking. The October deficit was $29.4 billion, down nearly 40 percent from September. The decline continued in November, the last month for which statistics are available.

Sooo

Of course then at the end there is Trump bashing in a desire to not get fired and cancelled....
But its a far left publication.
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4757 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:25 am to
It’s almost as if he knows what he’s doing.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
15863 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:26 am to
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And herein lies both an interesting economic mystery


Or how about maybe, just maybe, Trump and Company know what they're doing?
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
7954 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:29 am to
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It’s almost as if he knows what he’s doing.


A lifelong successful businessman and not a career politician. Who would’ve thunk it?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94631 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:30 am to
Frogtard and Rogerthecucker have always been wrong

They cried the most about tariffs
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19363 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:32 am to
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A lifelong successful businessman and not a career politician. Who would’ve thunk it?

It's crazy what happens when you base policy on sound economic principles instead of blind ideology and feelz.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19358 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:35 am to
But tariffs are the reason Canada has now embraced Chyna as their main trading partner. Or so Twitter tells me.
Posted by Harvey Vortac
MidCity
Member since Aug 2024
191 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:35 am to
Every “big brained” ivy leaguer has spouted “conventional wisdom” both in economics and foreign relations that is continually being proven wrong.

The historical “conventional wisdom” may have only been wise for those gaming systems for their own benefit.

Essentially pissing on the backs of Americans and calling it rain.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24180 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:38 am to
The problem with applying economic theory to the actual economy is almost all theories assume rational actors making marginal decisions in an orderly market.

It has no ability to predict outcomes when those assumptions fail.

And those assumptions always fail.

I'm not intending to discount economic theory it's, just when you see that the assumptions are not in place you can't assume the outcomes will hold.

That's what is going on now.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8798 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:41 am to
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“Tariff pass-through to consumers has been much milder than anticipated,”


Exactly what many of us (me) said in April would happen.
Posted by Bunkie7672
Member since Mar 2020
1090 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:42 am to
The left always liked tariffs. Ask Bernie.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46950 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:49 am to
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It’s almost as if he knows what he’s doing.


Oh, come on! Who do you think Trump is? Some sort of successful life-long businessman with a Wharton School background who understands the economy and other financial-related matters?

I swear. Some of you people.....
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35488 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:53 am to
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The evidence suggests that most costs are being absorbed by foreign exporters or by domestic sellers accepting lower profit margins. And since the actual tariffs on different countries are a crazy quilt of different rates, producers have also become expert at shifting their supply chains to countries with relatively lower tariffs.


Yeah it’s funny how the panicans conveniently forgot that market share was a thing and that just raising prices isn’t always an option. Or they never knew it in the first place because they just pretend to be experts on a chit-chat board.
Posted by John somers
Los Proxima
Member since Oct 2024
954 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:54 am to
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And herein lies both an interesting economic mystery


Its so mysterious. Mysteriously mysterious.

Such a mysteriosity.



hOw cOuLd AnYoN3 hAvE KnOwN???
This post was edited on 1/15/26 at 9:56 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19050 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:54 am to
I too have preached this and been lambasted by the usual characters, here is how you know suppliers are "eating" the tariffs themselves.

One, the inflation number tells you it was not passed along.

Two, the quarterly earnings of foreign companies that explicitly state their lower earnings are because they are discounting to suppliers in the US so they can absorb the duties.

Three, the nonsense about China has just "found" new markets and their exports are growing greatly. They are at lesser margins, I guess they think they can make it up the lost profits by selling more goods at cost

Lastly Shrubber will be in here to tell you US importers are paying the duty. Yes they are because their foreign suppliers gave them a discount so they could. Its akin to saying your teenage daughter bought that, technically she did......with your credit card.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48351 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 10:05 am to
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heir foreign suppliers gave them a discount so they could. It's akin to saying your teenage daughter bought that, technically she did......with your credit card.

Best = and most succinct explanation I've heard. I have tried to explain it but fell short when confronted by non-believers.

Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10534 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 10:09 am to
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Two, the quarterly earnings of foreign companies that explicitly state their lower earnings are because they are discounting to suppliers in the US so they can absorb the duties.


This is how you know the panicans are just emotional retards. These companies literally told us they were eating the costs, but they chose to ignore it and makes themselves look like idiots.

Once again, those people will keep their heads down and avoid these threads. They'll be back to spewing lies and telling us how awful the tariffs have been tomorrow.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62693 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 10:13 am to
Tariffs have been a democrat policy since the 80s.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63264 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 10:14 am to
There are some regular posters on this board who are absolute morons when it comes to economics and will avoid this news completely.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86877 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 10:17 am to
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And herein lies both an interesting economic mystery



Not a mystery. More like you should listen to your elders that have experience.



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