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Who thinks maybe JJ should consider
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:36 am
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:36 am
playing the defense straight up without the shift for a few games and evaluate if it is better or worse than shifting?
Seriously, can we watch any more weak ground balls find gaps in the infield than what we have been watching the last two + weeks?
Seriously, can we watch any more weak ground balls find gaps in the infield than what we have been watching the last two + weeks?
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:38 am to QB
He already has. He thinks it works the majority of the time. It seems every time I see it used it doesn’t. Money ball.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:40 am to canyon
it's been baffling how it works against lsu both on defense and when hitting when other team shifts correctly
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:40 am to canyon
Analytics are ruining baseball. At every level.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:42 am to Godfather1
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Analytics are ruining baseball. At every level.
stupid take.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:49 am to canyon
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He already has. He thinks it works the majority of the time. It seems every time I see it used it doesn’t. Money ball.
It seemed to work a lot better for us in the early non-con season, but it definitely hasn’t worked well since maybe the first two SEC series.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:53 am to QB
I understand the statistics.
However, considering our penchant for errors this year, I would play more straight up and simplify everything.
Try to think less, and get back to basics.
However, considering our penchant for errors this year, I would play more straight up and simplify everything.
Try to think less, and get back to basics.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:04 am to QB
The shift only works if pitchers throw the ball where it’s intended/called.
We know that’s been an issue all season along with the deficiencies at the C position.
We know that’s been an issue all season along with the deficiencies at the C position.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:06 am to MIKEDATIGER
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The shift only works if pitchers throw the ball where it’s intended/called.
We know that’s been an issue all season along with the deficiencies at the C position.
The pitcher's inability to locate is also the primary cause of the perceived deficiencies at the catcher position.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:07 am to barry
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stupid take.
Baseball’s played on the field, not on a spreadsheet, douche.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 10:07 am
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:26 am to QB
I would play it straight up, but not going to act like I know more than Jay. He trusts his pitchers locating way too much, which allows balls go hit to the opposite side of the field and away from the shift.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:33 am to MIKEDATIGER
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The shift only works if pitchers throw the ball where it’s intended/called.
The problem is we call pitches away from the shift. Constantly. We call outside fastablls hoping they roll over it, and they shoot it right where the 2B should've been standing.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:35 am to nicholastiger
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it's been baffling how it works against lsu both on defense and when hitting when other team shifts correctly
Other teams seem to be using the back side of the field with much greater success than we are. Just goes back to our hitting approach being atrocious I feel like.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 12:01 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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The problem is we call pitches away from the shift. Constantly. We call outside fastablls hoping they roll over it, and they shoot it right where the 2B should've been standing.
I’m not going to say we haven’t done that. But I have seen several times where the catcher sets up inside and our pitcher misses over the middle or outside of the plate which has resulted in hitters going the opposite way. I’ve seen that more due to pitchers missing than where the pitch was called.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 2:54 pm to barry
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quote:Analytics are ruining baseball. At every level.
stupid take.
I disagree. The problem is analytics in all sports seem to have bypassed being useful in making decisions to just straight dictating decisions
It’s pretty easy to see why shifts could create this problem. Analytics could tell you that shifting could give you much better odds of definitely having someone in position. What weight do these analytics assign to the scenario that a batter hits it through the open spot and all of the repercussions that come with that (baserunning ability, score of the game, etc)? It likely doesn’t account whatsoever for the fact that a freshman has never played behind second base which may change his decision making and mechanics in a way that may alter the play for otherwise routine plays.
The design of normal positions in baseball were a very simple analytic to distribute the players to places to minimize the chance of any given ball getting behind them.
In football, I cringe every time time I hear “the analytics say go for it here” as if you chances of making it are all that matter, without any consideration of the fact that the stakes of not converting are all incredibly unique scenarios.
Fact of the matter is people that coach for a living likely have very limited experience in developing and apply statistics and analytics to fully understand how to use them.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 2:58 pm to QB
Needs to be outlawed. I hate it and the analytics guys .
Posted on 4/20/26 at 3:09 pm to MIKEDATIGER
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The shift only works if pitchers throw the ball where it’s intended/called.
We know that’s been an issue all season along with the deficiencies at the C position.
So other than the problems with pitching, catching, and fielding our defense has been pretty solid.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 3:22 pm to PsychTiger
The shifting is here to stay. People only blame it when it’s wrong, rarely do they give credit when it’s right, and it’s right more than people think.
The point of this analytics boom was never to get every single decision right. That’s impossible with any approach. They’re trying to get better over the long haul, if they even get 1% better long term because of it then it’s a success.
The point of this analytics boom was never to get every single decision right. That’s impossible with any approach. They’re trying to get better over the long haul, if they even get 1% better long term because of it then it’s a success.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:03 pm to YoungSteele830
Like I said before, when you have pitchers that can’t hit a bull in the arse with a bass fiddle, the shift is just guess work. Any MLB coach will attest to that.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:10 pm to OceanMan
Not enough data in college for it to work consistently and that’s not even considering freshman who have none
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 4:11 pm
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