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Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:07 am to
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8761 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:07 am to
Fwiw, there are scenarios where Jefferson’s TDs regress. Vikings were 77% pass TD to rush TD ratio last year. NFL average is about 63%.

The Kupp regression is obvious, but other players may be hit by it too. Kupp just has so much room to work with where he can regress and still be a top 3 WR
Posted by jkylejohnson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2016
14701 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:40 am to
I’m still on Kupp. I kept thinking last year he’d slow his roll but he never did. He may bust this year but I’d hate to be the a-hole that passed on him if he sniffs anything close to what he did last year.
Posted by Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
3063 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Robinson dealt with a hamstring last year Robinson was a 1200yd WR with Trusbisky and Nick Foles in B2B years lol


Yeah he was terrific in 2019/2020 but that was 2 years ago. Not sure when the hammy started causing him problems but he played in 12 games. Turns 29 in august this year. I just don’t buy it. Could be great but I am skeptical.

Granted I’m not on the Kupp train. I just don’t think he regresses bc of A-Rob’s success. I would rather end up with Jets
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289830 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 1:11 pm to
Kupp is already 29. That isn’t old
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162450 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 3:25 pm to
I don’t think he busts but I don’t think he’s a full tier above his peers
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58802 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

he still should be the clear #1



Its not 100% clear, zero chance he repeats what he did last season.

We have yet to see what Jefferson can really do, especially if they unlock the offense in Minny.

Zimmer had them in the stone ages as far as scheme.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

it's not far fetched to say ARob may out score Kupp.


What kinda odds we got on this happening?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289830 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 5:42 pm to
18:1
Posted by Jfk Jr
Member since Jul 2022
591 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 5:43 pm to
Jefferson. He's in a new offense and Cupp has Robinson that will take up more opportunities.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
46681 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

and while there will likely be a regression, he still should be the clear #1
This is a really good thread IMO.

We have many proven owners giving their take in this thread and they don't all agree. IF it was so clear cut, it wouldn't be the case.

I could argue for each and understand both sides.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289830 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

The combination of woods/OBJ (two very good players in their own right) went 72/861/9 last year playing 2nd fiddle to Kupp. Had 117 targets to Kupp’s 191


I get the math, I just Woods was on a 130 catch pace, OBJ never had traction in that offense, I don’t really pay mind to him.

Robinson is better than both I think.

Kupp can still be their real football no1. He’ll lead them in catches but what can Robinson make up in yards/TDs as a guy that can get downfield and find the end zone
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33090 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 7:59 pm to
Kupp is higher upside and higher downside IMO
Jefferson is as close to a sure thing for a top tier season as you can get

I’m taking JJ
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16581 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:50 pm to
Chase was rookie last year...I expect big things.
Posted by baytiger11
Member since Jul 2020
2376 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Adams
Lamb
Chase
Jefferson
Diggs

Lamb will have a breakout year with Cooper and Cedric Wilson gone.

And if it weren't for Tee Higgins vulturing targets, Chase would easily be WR1, imo, over Jets and Kupp
Posted by TheWalrus
Land of the Hogs
Member since Dec 2012
46607 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 4:04 pm to
I have Chase and Jefferson in a dynasty and I could have drafted Kupp but took Woods one spot ahead of him in the startup draft 3 years ago. Have Tyreek too.
Posted by PigDog33
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2021
995 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 6:47 pm to
I love JJ and chase for that matter , and I’ll probably reach for them in my FF draft…
But if Kupp is there you have to pick him first WR. He continued to be unstoppable through the SB. And he’s still under 30 and in his prime.
Just my opinion…but also either jj or chase could go off and win OPOY they have the talent
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74214 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Percentage of targets deemed catchable to Allen Robinson per @SportsInfo_SIS

Rank is of WRs with at least 65 tgts

2015 - 58% (51st)
2016 - 70.7% (47th)
2018 - 71.0% (43rd)
2019 - 72.7% (32nd)
2020 - 75.5% (37th)
2021 - 68.7% (49th)

79% of Rams WR tgts were catchable last year
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17527 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 9:07 pm to
I think I read somewhere that if you eliminate all of Kupp’s TDs last season, he still finished top 5 wr.

That’s my answer
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3984 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:35 am to
Kupp’s 2021 did not come out of nowhere. He was coming off back to back 90+ catch seasons including 1,000/10 in 2019 with Goff. He got a better QB last year and went off.

Unless you expect the Rams to implode, there is no reason to expect significant regression from Kupp.

Rams also have a surprisingly favorable schedule for a defending champion.

Minny is @ GB week 17 (fantasy championship) so u have probable weather concerns. Minny played @ GB week 17 last year also and JJ went 6/58/0.
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2044 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 9:11 am to
anyone else concerned about Stafford's elbow? Beginning the year with an abnormal issue is really not good given his injury history.
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