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Pitching question

Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:16 am
Posted by lsuag88
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2006
3823 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:16 am
So many walks. Are our pitchers not finding the strike zone AT ALL, OR are they not finding the spot they are being told (ex the outside edge or the inside edge)? Especially after ball 3.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79258 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:25 am to
when we’re missing 3-0 it’s because we can’t throw a strike to save our lives

that’s usually the pitch everyone just throws for a strike if they can because they’re going to be taking 19/20 times

when we’re missing 3-1 and pretty much every other count we’re trying to hit spots.

Jay has said you can’t just go up there and not try and throw competitive pitches because those get hit hard at this level.
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
6694 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:41 am to
Most of the guys last night aren't coming in on the weekends very often because they can't throw strikes consistently. Its fine in a midweek against Southern to get them some reps, but you can't have that when you're playing a loaded SEC team. The bullpen has been really shaky this season.

Jay needs to find a day 3 starter pretty quick.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79258 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Jay needs to find a day 3 starter pretty quick.


we literally have not had a Sunday starter since Jay has been here

If moore really is back in 2 weeks we’re better off than most seasons.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290321 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:36 am to
Yes, Yeskie is instructing them to walk people. That’s why he is paid the big bucks! The powerhouse!
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
25398 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:40 am to
The key is getting ahead in the count early. If you have a batter down 1-2, you can make him look silly at what he will swing at to stay alive. But, it's easier said than done.
Posted by jasonbr1975
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2024
1817 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:41 am to
No excuse, but last night, that strike zone was super tight. There were several pitches called balls that should have easily been strikes. Those ones that result in B4 hurt bad...
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
25398 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Yes, Yeskie is instructing them to walk people. That’s why he is paid the big bucks! The powerhouse!


April Fools!
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14082 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:47 am to
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Jay needs to find a day 3 starter pretty quick.


Here we go with this fricking BS talking point again


Every

Single

Year






Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18451 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:50 am to
Most highly rated guys that come to LSU have never really had to hit spots before. When you throw 90+ and have a decent curveball and changeup, it doesn’t take much to get high school batters out.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
45731 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Most of the guys last night aren't coming in on the weekends very often because they can't throw strikes consistently


The fix for that is throwing in-game situations. It's why we have midweek games and one reason why the Majors have the preseason.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6925 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:03 am to
The short answer to that is Jay recruits guys who throw upper 90s. These pitchers tend to struggle with locating more than the guy topping out at 91.

The longer answer is that the way we call pitches doesn't allow room for error. By the end of the season, Jay and Yeskie will have narrowed down the reliable arms, and only those guys will get meaningful work. Our pitching always improves.

The hardest part about watching this team is reminding yourself that Jay Johnson isn't coaching only to win today. Jay is constantly doing things that will help the team later this season and next season. He's seeing who can perform in which situations, and those are buttons he will be pushing at the end of the season. At the same time, he's getting work to the guys we need next year. As bad as Schmidt looked most of last year, Johnson made sure he not only had experience in SEC games but also pitched in the regionals and super regionals. Those things helped Schmidt be the dude he is right now.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22470 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:30 am to
quote:

No excuse, but last night, that strike zone was super tight. There were several pitches called balls that should have easily been strikes. Those ones that result in B4 hurt bad...


The ump was really squeezing Noot
Posted by TFLEX
TX
Member since Jun 2023
356 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 12:41 pm to
Mainly spots. In college and the pros, if you put a fastball down the pipe it is going 350' plus the other direction.

These kids have to work the edges of the zone, which leaves small margin for misses.

Its just tough. Thats what separates elite guys, from guys with good stuff.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22735 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

So many walks. Are our pitchers not finding the strike zone AT ALL, OR are they not finding the spot they are being told (ex the outside edge or the inside edge)? Especially after ball 3.


JMHO but I have believed umps squeeze the strike zone in pre conference games. No data but just opinion. It seems that once conference starts either the pitchers are more in a groove or the umps are more lenient and consistent.

Yes, we are in conf and still walking a lot of people...
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
4006 posts
Posted on 4/1/26 at 1:14 pm to
You have swerved into a probable reason for why we are walking so many. The short answer is that it is execution.

It’s partly because pitchers have good and bad days. We have a fair amount of inexperience that adds to control issues. The pitching coach calls a pitch and location based on analytics from previous at bats by the hitter. When the pitch and location called are a small window, execution can be a problem. Loosen the window frame and it could give the hitter an advantage.

A proving ground that this is whats going on is when it is 3-0 and the pitcher puts one center cut, to me, means he can’t execute what’s called. If he misses or misses badly, to me, it means he is having trouble executing any pitch.
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