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re: Endgame on TNT
Posted on 9/25/24 at 3:06 pm to VoxDawg
Posted on 9/25/24 at 3:06 pm to VoxDawg
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All I know is that cutting to commercial as both sides of the battlefield are rushing towards each other immediately following Cap's "Avengers... Assemble!" line is some limp-dicked network decision-making.
Yeah, for a minute, I thought they were going to let it run. Idiots
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 3:48 pm to Oates Mustache
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Captain Marvel makes it look effortless.
Having no personality will do that
Posted on 9/25/24 at 4:07 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:Oh good grief.
this has to be one of the worst scenes in history:
Posted on 9/25/24 at 4:12 pm to Esquire
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Cause these are always based on merit.
Have you seen Room?
room is good. i liked her in 21 Jump Street and Scott Pilgrim as well.
but outside of that i've really been fairly unimpressed.
i'm not hating on her or anything. she said dumb things in the middle of peak identity politics.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 4:20 pm to CarRamrod
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Infinity War >>>>>>>>End Game
Infinity War was very very good.
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the only reason End Game is considered good, is the scale of the storylines all coming together after 10 years and the amount of super heroes in one movie.
People (myself included) wanted it to be good so much. Some don't want to admit that the movie fails on many levels. I really think the writers didn't know how to piece the plot together.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:15 pm to BigAppleTiger
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It seems the Russo Bros were fans of Star Trek Voyager
Undiscovered Country too (end credits with signatures was a direct ripoff)
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:07 pm to CarRamrod
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the only reason End Game is considered good, is the scale of the storylines all coming together after 10 years and the amount of super heroes in one movie.
this isn't inaccurate, Endgame gets deservedly high marks because infinity war hit every note so damn well that you were aching for the resolution.
Endgame leaned hard into the feels because they knew what you felt from Infinity War would allow the Russo Bros get away with it.
Individually., Infinity War is a 10/10, nailed everything and pulled together 10 different story lines into a single one brilliantly and had the balls to end on a harsh note.
Endgame is a 6.5-7.5/10 that leaned very hard into your emotions with fun scenes and some dumb scenes.
together they are 9/10 and deserving of the money and accolades.
IMHO Marvel should have popped champagne and said "we did it" we made $2billion and made comic book movies the peak of the 2010s. Let's retire into the sunset"
but they had to do more and live out Nolan's line of "we lived long enough to become the villians."
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:17 pm to 3nOut
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This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:19 pm to meeple
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You meant Endgame here ?
yes. corrected in my OP.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:14 pm to CarRamrod
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Infinity War >>>>>>>>End Game
This is the way, I’ll always watch Infinity War when it’s on. But it’s gotta be a long time in between watches to watch Endgame.
Like I said earlier, my main gripe is how they neutered Thor by making him a fat arse. He’s been devastated with his failure for 5 years, so he gets fat and gets worked over by Thanos in the final battle. frick that, he’d live for another chance to take revenge
Even combined with Cap and Iron Man 3 on 1 Thanos works them. Should’ve had them beat Thanos and have him retreat to bring out his whole army and face them 3 on a million then do portals.
The constant powering up and powering down to fit the plot just irks me in Endgame. Hulk is fricking worthless besides snapping, we can’t get a rematch with Thanos?
Wanda/Strange can’t just pop his head off with telekinesis? He doesn’t have the stones, he’s just a being at that point
Posted on 9/25/24 at 10:59 pm to Oates Mustache
Scarlett Witch didn't exist yet. Wanda hadn't yet reached her full potential yet in Endgame.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:09 pm to Oates Mustache
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Why wasn't Scarlett Witch as capable as she was?
Pre-Darkhold version. She did magic but didn't know magic. Hadn't begun to unlock her potential yet.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 11:13 pm to Frac the world
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Like I said earlier, my main gripe is how they neutered Thor by making him a fat arse
I actually liked that they didn't just immediately fix Thor 10 minutes into the movie like they normally do in these types of movies.
It seemed real how he felt he had let everyone down and fallen into depression after he felt responsible for half of the universe being erased.
Once he finds out they have a plan to stop Thanos he jumps into action.
When he goes on the time heist and talks to his mom he starts to get his old self back. Then he calls mjolnir and is unsure if he is still worthy and it comes back and realizes he is. When they do finally meet up with thanos for the final battle he is the first one to attack.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:36 am to Frac the world
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Hulk is fricking worthless besides snapping, we can’t get a rematch with Thanos?
the first time I watched it, I just knew smart hulk wouldn't be able to hold up that building, but rage hulk would coming busting out of the rubble and go on a fricking rampage.
then it didn't happen.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:13 am to CarRamrod
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Infinity War >>>>>>>>End Game
This is correct. And obvious.
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the only reason End Game is considered good, is the scale of the storylines all coming together after 10 years and the amount of super heroes in one movie.
This is not correct though. Endgame is very good in its own right...even great. it falls short of several things, and isn't as good as Infinity War though. Infinity War is so great because of what you said (all of the storylines coming together), not Endgame. Endgame is great because we finally get absolute resolution with everything. It's the finale of 10-15 years worth of movies. However, it falls short for the forced girl power stupidity, making Thor a physical gag (I appreciate the depression aspect of it, but the fat suit was too much, and the fact that he never made it back to normal Thor was ridiculous), but more importantly because any time you get into time travel and all that, things tend to lessen. That's its main drawback to me, despite it really being the only way they could make it work. And in the grand scheme of things, when you're dealing with an IP that has time travel and multiple dimensions and all that, it's fine.
But all of that stuff just sort of lessens the stakes for me. Which was why IW was so awesome...there were actual stakes and the bad guy won and succeeded in his plan. Obviously the followup movie sort of undoing all of that is going to lessen things (including movie quality).
But together as a complete story, IW and EG are top-notch cinema IMO.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 11:46 am
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:20 am to CocomoLSU
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But all of that stuff just sort of lessens the stakes for me.
CoCo is right. Once you introduce time travel and multiverse stuff, the stakes are less and it makes the previous movies seem like they weren't that important. Gamora died? Oh well, we will just go back in time to get another one or go to another multiverse and get one.
That is the problem they are dealing with now. No one is that interested because of the multiverse/time travel. Everything can be undone or fixed.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:41 am to Frac the world
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Hulk is fricking worthless besides snapping, we can’t get a rematch with Thanos?
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Like I said earlier, my main gripe is how they neutered Thor by making him a fat arse
I didn’t like this either and they had some power level issues with Thor. If he almost took out infinity stone Thanos they should’ve make short work of regular Thanos.
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Hulk is fricking worthless besides snapping, we can’t get a rematch with Thanos?
Another lost opportunity. They could’ve easily had Hulk lose his mind under the building after absorbing the snap and go full on rage Hulk. Fans would’ve loved it and I’d have rather seen the core Avergers at full strength fight with Thanos and the glove than just him and Captain Marvel.
Let the rest of the MCU handle the alien army and henchmen.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:44 am to LB84
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Larson is lucky she's very attractive because after that she doesn't offer much.
Larson used to be great; she let success get to her.
She was great in Scott Pilgrim, for example. Her whole approach seemed to decline when she got the Marvel job.
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:47 am to CocomoLSU
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In an otherwise awesome movie, this has to be one of the worst scenes in history:
Hell, it doesn't even make sense... like were they all there? Just a few seconds ago Thanos' ship was blasting craters into the entire battlefield. They should be all over the place.
Also, HISHE had it right - Captain Marvel, at that point, didn't NEED their help. She literally flew THROUGH the ship. WTF was a bunch of Thanos' troops going to do to her? Muss up her hair?
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:55 am to SquatchDawg
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I didn’t like this either and they had some power level issues with Thor. If he almost took out infinity stone Thanos they should’ve make short work of regular Thanos.
I've felt the reason they made Thor fat and out of shape is the same reason Captain Marvel was busy in other parts of the galaxy - they were too powerful otherwise.
Chris Helmsworth is a much better comedic actor than Bree Larson plus Thor is part of the original Avengers, so he needed to be in the bulk of the movie. They just wrote CM out for a long stretch but for Thor needed something else.
I mean, they had a time machine - they were in no hurry. Thor could easily have worked out, gotten back in shape, and by then Marvel is back. So while they're off getting the stones Marvel and Thor find Thanos, kick the shite out of him, then there's no threat of THAT Thanos screwing with their plans.
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