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re: Do you like jury duty?
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:38 am to theantiquetiger
Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:38 am to theantiquetiger
I’m like 0-3 ….been summoned but never left the jury pool room and after an hour or so, i get dismissed
I would love to serve if ever given the opportunity
I would love to serve if ever given the opportunity
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:06 am to theantiquetiger
I would hate to have my fate decided by 12 people who aren't smart enough to get out of jury duty.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:13 am to theantiquetiger
I liked serving on the grand jury. It moves fairly quickly and you get to hear so many cases. It really gives you insight into what goes on around you on a daily basis. I've only served once, but that made me believe that serving on a grand jury should be required of every single person of legal standing in our society.
I've never been on a trial jury. I was called once and went through the process just to get struck. I was fine with that because it was a personal injury case involving a wreck.
I've never been on a trial jury. I was called once and went through the process just to get struck. I was fine with that because it was a personal injury case involving a wreck.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:14 am to Obtuse1
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Never served and almost certainly never will, no attorney is going to pick another lawyer for a jury.
I always wanted to see behind the curtain though. I have watched well over 100 mock juries deliberate my cases but I am convinced a real jury has a different feel and process. I have talked to a lot of jurors afterward but I know I am not getting the full picture.
My belief too, although I've heard from a ton of attorneys lately that they've gotten selected.
Not sure what's up with it, but the consensus around here is that you're no longer a guaranteed bounce anymore.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:20 am to Twenty 49
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And the lawyers don't necessarily "pick" the jurors. They get to challenge potential jurors for cause, which challenge may be denied, or use a peremptory strike to kick them out of the pool. But once the lawyers run out of strikes, the ones who are left sitting there will make up the jury. So the lawyers really get to "unpick" people and then take who is left.
You are trying to explain how a jury works to a lawyer....
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:24 am to TheDeathValley
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You are trying to explain how a jury works to a lawyer....
The explanation was warranted.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:25 am to Twenty 49
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The explanation was warranted.
I bet you try to tell your doctor what WebMD has told you too...
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:35 am to theantiquetiger
Dave Letterman: Have you ever done jury duty?
Robin Williams: Yeah, I'm sure some lawyer wants me on a jury.
Robin Williams: Yeah, I'm sure some lawyer wants me on a jury.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:47 am to tigerinthebueche
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Every fricking time I vote I get a subpoena for jury duty. I loathe it and do everything possible to get rejected if I get all the way to the jury box for vois dire. I appreciate that it’s my “civic duty”, but I’ve done it enough now. It’s someone else’s turn.
Usually a declamatory statement about hating a minority group or the other sex will generally get you excluded forever.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:52 am to tss22h8
last time I was called 2 years ago, an insufficient number of potentials showed up and day had to be cancelled. Judge was perplexed and talked to us about the no shows. Enforcement was not a useful answer as the cost of a bench warrant was 3 times the value of fines imposed for no shows.
about ten years ago, I was selected for a jury trial for a traffic violation. A young person with 2 kids and wife was issued 5 violations for test driving a vehicle he wanted to purchase, on a subdivision street at 20 miles per hour. Young person asked for a jury trial to be able to tell his story about the cops overreach. He admitted in court that the event took place. 1800 dollars was the fine. As jury, we were appalled at the behavior of the cop, sheriff, district attorney etc, and found the young man not guilty. The judge when he heard the verdict blurted out, but he admitted guilt in court... and then released the defendant at no cost.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:54 am to theantiquetiger
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Do you like jury duty?
I would enjoy being on a jury, but I have never had the opportunity.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 9:57 am to theantiquetiger
i wish. ive been selected by mail 3 times. didn't qualify once, was long term out of state for second, and third they told me not to show up.
im salary, so i want to sit and judge people! id probably wind up getting some stupid traffic shite anyway.
im salary, so i want to sit and judge people! id probably wind up getting some stupid traffic shite anyway.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:01 am to CrappyPants
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Don't talk. I was in a room of about 60 being screened for a civil trial. 13 were chosen. The 13 that were chosen hardly raised their hands and hardly said anything.
Was on a panel and defense attorney said basically the same thing. When beginning he said something along the lines of "I'm going to ask a bunch of questions..you know what we call people who don't participate... jurors."
Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:05 pm to theantiquetiger
Last month I spent a day in the Lincoln Parish Courthouse, going through the preliminary phase of jurors being questioned by the attorneys of the plaintiff, and the defendant, of a civil suit against a local hospital. The family of a man who fell, and sustained injuries he later died from, while under the hospital's care, was suing for lost wages, and anything else they could get.
Being summoned for jury duty during the COVID pandemic sucked. Not only did you have to wear a mask while you sat through two other groups of 15 people being questioned by the two sets of attorneys, but when you were called up to be questioned you had to switch to a plastic shield, so the attorneys could see your face when you answered their questions. On the way out of the courthouse most people just threw the shield away. It sucks that our taxes have to pay for those shields. F both sets of attorneys. They don't deserve to know if my face looks like I'm telling the truth when I answered.
The most surprising development that the questioning uncovered was that multiple people in each group had been on juries in civil cases against the same hospital. Some when it was under current ownership, and others from when it was under previous owners.
I was not chosen to be a juror after I answered a question about a past experience I'd had with doctor's orders during a hospital stay. In the case I was being questioned for, the doctor had ordered the man to stay in bed after he came in with heart failure problems. Those orders seemed to be the defense for the hospital attorneys. I told them I'd been in a similar situation because I'd had a three month hospital stay where I was not allowed to get out of the bed for two and a half months. I told them how I begged the doctor to let me try to use a walker to go to the bathroom in my room. They would not let me do that, so I had to call a nurse and use a bed pan when I made a bowel movement. I made the statement, "I didn't want to have to go through that embarrassing sequence, but it was what the doctor told me to do."
I think the plaintiff's attorney crossed me off the list right then and there!
My parents have told me stories about families losing loved ones for what sounded like negligence, in the care of the same hospital. We try to avoid it, but have used the emergency room there, to keep from driving 20+ miles to West Monroe or Monroe.
One other time I went through a similar exercise at the Dallas courthouse. I didn't get chosen that time either.
One time I got called, and spent the whole day waiting in the lobby of the Dallas courthouse. That afternoon someone came and told us our obligation was done, thanked us, then told us we could leave.
Being summoned for jury duty during the COVID pandemic sucked. Not only did you have to wear a mask while you sat through two other groups of 15 people being questioned by the two sets of attorneys, but when you were called up to be questioned you had to switch to a plastic shield, so the attorneys could see your face when you answered their questions. On the way out of the courthouse most people just threw the shield away. It sucks that our taxes have to pay for those shields. F both sets of attorneys. They don't deserve to know if my face looks like I'm telling the truth when I answered.
The most surprising development that the questioning uncovered was that multiple people in each group had been on juries in civil cases against the same hospital. Some when it was under current ownership, and others from when it was under previous owners.
I was not chosen to be a juror after I answered a question about a past experience I'd had with doctor's orders during a hospital stay. In the case I was being questioned for, the doctor had ordered the man to stay in bed after he came in with heart failure problems. Those orders seemed to be the defense for the hospital attorneys. I told them I'd been in a similar situation because I'd had a three month hospital stay where I was not allowed to get out of the bed for two and a half months. I told them how I begged the doctor to let me try to use a walker to go to the bathroom in my room. They would not let me do that, so I had to call a nurse and use a bed pan when I made a bowel movement. I made the statement, "I didn't want to have to go through that embarrassing sequence, but it was what the doctor told me to do."
I think the plaintiff's attorney crossed me off the list right then and there!
My parents have told me stories about families losing loved ones for what sounded like negligence, in the care of the same hospital. We try to avoid it, but have used the emergency room there, to keep from driving 20+ miles to West Monroe or Monroe.
One other time I went through a similar exercise at the Dallas courthouse. I didn't get chosen that time either.
One time I got called, and spent the whole day waiting in the lobby of the Dallas courthouse. That afternoon someone came and told us our obligation was done, thanked us, then told us we could leave.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 12:25 pm to Obtuse1
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Never served and almost certainly never will, no attorney is going to pick another lawyer for a jury.
I would absolutely allow an attorney on a criminal jury, depending on the theory of the case. Actually, out of my trials over the last few years, I would have been good with an attorney on each of those juries, as the cases turned on relatively fine distinctions regarding the definitions of the offenses.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:07 pm to Obtuse1
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Never served and almost certainly never will, no attorney is going to pick another lawyer for a jury.
I always wanted to see behind the curtain though. I have watched well over 100 mock juries deliberate my cases but I am convinced a real jury has a different feel and process. I have talked to a lot of jurors afterward but I know I am not getting the full picture.
I am a lawyer and I have served on one jury. I was careful not to be picked as the foreman because I wanted to observe the process. Biggest shock was how much the jurors talked about their own experiences influencing their view of the evidence.
I am a litigator, but do not try criminal cases. The jury I was on was for a criminal case. Result: not guilty.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:10 pm to theantiquetiger
Been called in multiple time, never actually got seated.
Closest I got was a federal drug / weapons case where I was a few jurors away from being considered.
Every other time I went, I sat for a few hours then got released for the week.
Closest I got was a federal drug / weapons case where I was a few jurors away from being considered.
Every other time I went, I sat for a few hours then got released for the week.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 1:32 pm to Joshjrn
Good point. Did you consider waiving jury trial and going bench trial instead? If I’m reading you right and the case hinged on some technical point of law, that is.
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 3/25/22 at 2:23 pm to davyjones
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Good point. Did you consider waiving jury trial and going bench trial instead? If I’m reading you right and the case hinged on some technical point of law, that is.
Considered it, but didn’t for various reasons. To be as vague as I can, some were due to what I would call a less than ideal judge, some were because I had managed to suppress evidence, so I didn’t know if the judge would truly be able to push that aside when acting as the finder of fact, and some were a bit of a mixed bag in that some counts were bullshite, but some were solid, and I was attempting a bit of a “some bullshite, all bullshite” hand wave.
Based on the results, while imperfect, I think even in hindsight they were the correct calls.
Posted on 3/25/22 at 2:39 pm to Obtuse1
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no attorney is going to pick another lawyer for a jury.
I've never really understood this, I would think if it were me on trial I would want someone who knows the law to be on the jury. On the other hand, I get the worry that a lawyer could potentially take over deliberations and sway everyone else to their side by everyone else thinking the lawyer has got to be correct.
I've only been called once, and neither side seemed to care I was an attorney. They picked a full jury before I even had to be questioned beyond filling out a form questionnaire
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