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re: Lesson from the confederate monument saga
Posted on 12/19/25 at 4:18 pm to GreenRockTiger
Posted on 12/19/25 at 4:18 pm to GreenRockTiger
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The civil war was about economics
Yes. The economics of slavery.
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Posted on 12/19/25 at 4:34 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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never voted for a democrat in my life
Here we go!
Posted on 12/19/25 at 4:45 pm to real turf fan
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First he declared he might be a candidate for Presidency, When that was met with barely a yawn, he went job hunting. You might not have noticed but he was very high up in Joe Biden's candidacy for re-election. Since then, crickets.
If him or Mary are done stuffing their pockets working for lobbying firms, maybe Mitch can run for Senate against Cassidy.
He might have a shot if the Republicans shoot themselves in the foot and have a nasty primary.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 4:52 pm to GreenRockTiger
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The civil war was about economics
Well sure honey, the economics of slave labor vs paid labor. Whitey wasn’t going to start paying all those Irish a living wage to harvest cotton and sugar cane when they could just buy slaves to do it. Just read all the secession declarations.
I was raised on all that lost cause bullshite too. Took me a while to get over it. The idea that 100s of thousands of men would fight and die over “economics” is kind of laughable.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 4:58 pm to T1gerNate
They are now symbols of dumb arse leftist BS. That's what the emptiness represents much like many of their souls.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 4:58 pm to Mung
Also note, Robert E. Lee never set foot in New Orleans. Well, maybe on his way to Mexico back when he fought for the USA, before becoming a traitor, but he never defended New Orleans, like Andrew Jackson. His statue was placed there in the 1880s to remind blacks who was in charge after reconstruction ended. Why not put a statue up of someone who actually did something for New Orleans, or Louisiana?
Posted on 12/19/25 at 5:21 pm to HueyLongJr
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HueyLongJr
Like this guy! Did great things in Louisiana, a spent a bunch of time at the Roosevelt right up the street from Tivoli Circle.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 5:23 pm to The Torch
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It really made a huge difference in crime in New Orleans after all the people stopped being offended by statues.
It sure did. That’s how Teedy was able to become the world traveler 90% of her 2nd term. Rarely any crime to worry about.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 5:32 pm to T1gerNate
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beautiful monuments
Posted on 12/19/25 at 5:57 pm to DustyDinkleman
The city should install stautes of the Comus dancing heads in the old Lee Circle.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 6:08 pm to T1gerNate
Never apologize.
Never bend.
Never yield.
Never bend.
Never yield.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 6:23 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Last I checked, ALL of America, not just the south, still exists as a primarily gentile (non-Jewish) society.
a gentile society that no longer exists.
Did you mean to say genteel society?
Bless your heart...
Posted on 12/19/25 at 6:31 pm to HueyLongJr
Read some actual primary source instead of the crap you have been looking at. Most of those who fought the war for the north did so to do one thing, preserve the union. They could have cared less about slavery.
I'm so sick of prog 20 somethings who think they can win this debate
I'm so sick of prog 20 somethings who think they can win this debate
Posted on 12/19/25 at 6:35 pm to T1gerNate
Interesting…
Marksville is displaying a statue of Solomon Northup, a free man of color that was enslaved and sold to a plantation owner in Avoyelles/Rapides Parish area. He was finally freed years later at the Avoyelles Parish Courthouse…
So, we can’t display Confederate military statures, but we can display slaves?
Marksville is displaying a statue of Solomon Northup, a free man of color that was enslaved and sold to a plantation owner in Avoyelles/Rapides Parish area. He was finally freed years later at the Avoyelles Parish Courthouse…
So, we can’t display Confederate military statures, but we can display slaves?
Posted on 12/19/25 at 6:46 pm to T1gerNate
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They replaced beautiful monuments to courage and tradition with emptiness because that is all they have to offer.
This right here
Posted on 12/19/25 at 7:39 pm to hansenthered1
STFU d’wad. Of course the Union fought to preserve the union. The Confederacy fought to keep slavery.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:10 pm to T1gerNate
The only reason things like people wanting monuments removed becomes a thing is because there is always people who have something to gain by it becoming an issue.
I've seen it done on a local level. All of a sudden a monument that was in an area where people rarely seen them became an issue and the parish president lobbied to certain parish council members to vote to remove it because he was worried if they didn't the black people was planning to march down to the spot and that could result in things getting out of hand, etc.
They voted to remove it and the council members had to deal with the backlash from their voters who were mad they voted for it, but what was really going on was that the parish president was using it to tell the black people "I for yall, I got that confederate monument removed" and then was telling the white people "there was nothing I can do about it, the council voted to remove it. My hands were tied".
I am not saying that's how it happens every time, I think sometimes its some special interest group.. Or some politician contacts a group and ask them to make an issue out of it, they probably donate something to that group for doing what they needed them to do, but your average person, white, black or any other color isn't worried about monuments they are so used to seeing, they pass them all the time without even thinking about them.
It is my opinion that while politicians have always been snakes in the grass. To some degree they have to in order to get others to vote for or against whatever they need, but the past.. 15 years maybe... It seems like politicians have gone beyond the norms to get what they need and there tactics have had a negative impact socially.
I've seen it done on a local level. All of a sudden a monument that was in an area where people rarely seen them became an issue and the parish president lobbied to certain parish council members to vote to remove it because he was worried if they didn't the black people was planning to march down to the spot and that could result in things getting out of hand, etc.
They voted to remove it and the council members had to deal with the backlash from their voters who were mad they voted for it, but what was really going on was that the parish president was using it to tell the black people "I for yall, I got that confederate monument removed" and then was telling the white people "there was nothing I can do about it, the council voted to remove it. My hands were tied".
I am not saying that's how it happens every time, I think sometimes its some special interest group.. Or some politician contacts a group and ask them to make an issue out of it, they probably donate something to that group for doing what they needed them to do, but your average person, white, black or any other color isn't worried about monuments they are so used to seeing, they pass them all the time without even thinking about them.
It is my opinion that while politicians have always been snakes in the grass. To some degree they have to in order to get others to vote for or against whatever they need, but the past.. 15 years maybe... It seems like politicians have gone beyond the norms to get what they need and there tactics have had a negative impact socially.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:15 pm to HueyLongJr
The confederacy fought to be free from what they saw as the tyranny of Washington.
Sorry you were brainwashed commie. Maybe read a few primary sources on the war before you quote your 8th grade commie teacher
Sorry you were brainwashed commie. Maybe read a few primary sources on the war before you quote your 8th grade commie teacher
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:31 pm to hansenthered1
The confederacy sought to be free of the tyranny of a constitutional republic rejecting slavery. There is no version of history where the Civil War is fought over anything but the desire to keep slavery as an institution. Dress it up all you want racist, but those are the facts.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:39 pm to HueyLongJr
General Sherman, who did not own slaves, was a known racist, but that’s ok because he fought for the union?
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