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re: Thinking Out Loud - California Wild Fires
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:01 am to Harry Caray
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:01 am to Harry Caray
i would think a homeowner would be more concerned about saving his home rather than Sago palm.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:01 am to HeadSlash
They could wrap each house in Nomex.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:09 am to Harry Caray
quote:Given the choice between salt water killing my lawn and fire burning it and my house up, I would opt for the salt water.
What do you think happens to land if you pour ocean water filled with salt on it?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:26 am to HeadSlash
They need a helo outfitted with an outrigger to blow some antiretardant foam around the area to limit the path.
I'm with you though OP - surprised it hasn't been designed yet.
I'm with you though OP - surprised it hasn't been designed yet.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:27 am to HeadSlash
Do you understand how hot these fires and their embers are getting and how much the wind blows the embers around with no way to stop it?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:28 am to The Torch
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With the shortage of water I doubt it would work if every house started pulling from the water source.
And that's part of the problem along with the needed infrastructure to distribute and pump water. Kinda of ironic to see a massive wild fire right next to the largest ocean on earth. Water water everywhere but not a drop to drink or fight a fire with.
Their problem is similar to Houston. A massive metro area where development is done regardless of what nature will do in any given year. Flooding in Houston and fires in LA are a great example of nature giving the big middle finger to man's plans.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:51 am to Harry Caray
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Yeah the government planned and produced the 40mph winds they've been getting. Gotta be the evil government. Definitely not nature doing what it's been doing for millions of years. The government.
Trump took control of the weather controls before inauguration? Time for his next impeachment.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:43 am to F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Given the choice between salt water killing my lawn and fire burning it and my house up, I would opt for the salt water
So you'd rather turn your area into a desert, susceptible to wind erosion and landslides? That seems quite shortsighted.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:58 am to MoarKilometers
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:20 pm to MoarKilometers
The salt water could be a viable second line of defense in this particular situation. Not for everyday firefighting IMO.
One time salt water intrusion would not eliminate vegetation altogether and would come back the following year
Look at St. Bernard after Katrina. Most trees survived and everything grew back with a vengeance.
One time salt water intrusion would not eliminate vegetation altogether and would come back the following year
Look at St. Bernard after Katrina. Most trees survived and everything grew back with a vengeance.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:23 pm to brsa
The value of the home in that area isn’t the house but the land my brother
Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:23 pm to HeadSlash
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why hasn't a self contained fire suppression system been developed? Couldn't a foam be sprayed over the structure via a sprinkler system?
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HeadSlash

Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:27 pm to LegendInMyMind
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block/concrete homes
This would help with the fires but is worthless when it comes to earthquakes.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:38 pm to HeadSlash
Waterless fire suppression systems are expensive for banks. So not affordable at scale for homes.
You’ve gotta have a tank or piping to distribute. There’s not a big enough fire blanket for a house.
You’ve gotta have a tank or piping to distribute. There’s not a big enough fire blanket for a house.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:54 pm to MoarKilometers
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So you'd rather turn your area into a desert, susceptible to wind erosion and landslides? That seems quite shortsighted.
Just talking about neighborhoods, I’d think it would be cheaper to solve for salty soil/destroyed yards than it would be to remove burned down homes and rebuild them. Even if you have to scrape away some inches of top soil it still seems like the less terrible solution.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:57 pm to Harry Caray
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What do you think happens to land if you pour ocean water filled with salt on it?
Nothing grows for a short period of time. It's not like they would never have brush again
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:04 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
As a house burns down, I’m assuming the water pipes just keep running water. All of these houses burning at once has to be a major problem. Is there any kind of automatic shutoff where the water connects to the main city water line?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 2:08 pm to The Torch
When Gatlinburg TN had their massive fire, a neighbor of ours worked one subdivision making sure all the natural gas pipes were empty. He found something that had been Aluminum, that had flowed and looked like ice cycles , except of AL. Blow torch level heat.
The fires near Colorado Springs had one house survive because the owner used a Fire resistant sheathing and a lot of other materials. It got some coverage just after the fires burned through, so should be searchable.
The fires near Colorado Springs had one house survive because the owner used a Fire resistant sheathing and a lot of other materials. It got some coverage just after the fires burned through, so should be searchable.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:47 pm to Dadren
They are literally scooping massive of amounts of ocean water by plane and dumping it on fires anyway.
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