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re: Tylenol beat Trump by eight years.

Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:48 am to
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:48 am to
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he list of “safe” pharmaceuticals (meaning, no adverse side effects) is pretty fricking short. It may be a blank piece of paper.


Ivermectin
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12327 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:51 am to
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Many disease processes have very vague symptoms in the beginning. Also, some forms of cancer are very insidious and symptoms often do not prevent themselves until the advanced stages. This is why preventative medicine is key.

As directed, I use tallow as sunscreen, so it won’t be skin cancer.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:51 am to
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but it seems like a meta-analysis of previous studies determined at least a link worth taking seriously


of course

anyone suggesting otherwise shouldn't be considered a serious person

that press conference was just such an odd way to present data, but I guess I should be used to it by now
Posted by AwesomeSauce
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 9:55 am to
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I have to ask what everyone who’s categorically stating Tylenol is safe during pregnancy is basing their assertion on?
It's the safest option for prenatal fever. It's a doctor patient weighing the options. Acetaminophen use in new studies does show a 20-30% increase in spectrum disorders for the baby (not proved causation but linked). Prenatal fever can lead to issues as well if untreated, being linked to a similar rise in issues depending on development stage including miscarriage and preterm labor. If taken at the lowest dose and only when needed the risk to negate fever would appear to be worth it. One side you see a risk of 1.3-1.5% the other 1.7-2.0%. While definitely linked risks on both ends, this isn't a numbers issue like the response on either side would have you think if you gauged the severity off the responses.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 10:00 am to
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Acetaminophen use in new studies does show a 20-30% increase in spectrum disorders for the baby (not proved causation but linked).


20-30% increase is not insignificant. In fact, it’s downright alarming.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110067 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 10:02 am to
It’s a correlation. It’s not “useless” at this point, but correlation only with no link to any causation is as close as it gets.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 10:08 am to
The problem is there is an equal or greater correlation with fever during pregnancy, and there hasn't yet to be a study that has effectively studied the correlation independently of one another

Posted by 4quartaBamaball
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 10:20 am to
Wait till you tell them about the mercury shots and SSRIs.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 10:28 am to
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 10:54 am to
I'll take my downvotes, but the official White House X account turning into a meme account is pretty embarrassing. NB4 link to Biden's White House posting some pride stuff, that is embarrassing as well.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36745 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 10:55 am to
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I’m not sure why media is making this seem like some newfangled outlandish claim Trump made.

You’re not sure why the media will pick apart anything that Trump ever says?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 10:58 am to
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I don’t even know who that is. I’m a healthy middle aged guy with a BMI of 21. I don’t take medical advice from anyone—I don’t even have a primary care doctor.
you also don’t think the national guard should be sent into high crime areas - so I think you may be delusional.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
72892 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:22 am to
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It’s a correlation. It’s not “useless” at this point, but correlation only with no link to any causation is as close as it gets.


I understand the difference between correlation and causation. But when you see a 20-30% increase in the instances of spectrum disorders in infants who’ve been given Acetaminophen, that is a hell of a lot of correlation.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:23 am to
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But when you see a 20-30% increase in the instances of spectrum disorders in infants who’ve been given Acetaminophen, that is a hell of a lot of correlation.


Where is the data that states this specific statement? And does it account for changes in diagnostic criteria for ASD in the same general timeframe?



Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59107 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:27 am to
Bragging about being middle aged and never getting yearly bloodwork done is a weird flex but you do you bro
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72892 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:29 am to
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The problem is there is an equal or greater correlation with fever during pregnancy, and there hasn't yet to be a study that has effectively studied the correlation independently of one another


Well, Tylenol has been on the market for 70 years. Seems like something of this magnitude should have already been studied, especially since autism rates have absolutely exploded over the past 30 years, going from virtually unheard of by most people to now affecting 1 in 31 children today.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
85739 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:30 am to
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But when you see a 20-30% increase in the instances of spectrum disorders in infants who’ve been given Acetaminophen, that is a hell of a lot of correlation.


but utterly useless if not controlled for other variables
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
73467 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:30 am to
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Why can't I see this tweet if I go to their Twitter page?

Because that tweet was from 2017, hence Tylenol being well ahead of the announcement the other day.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 11:31 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110067 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:36 am to
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Ivermectin


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The severity of the risks depends on the dose and individual factors, but can range from gastrointestinal distress to severe neurological and cardiac issues.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 11:36 am to
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If that’s true


My dude….use your brain.
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