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re: Does anyone else find it weird how certain people “worship” social security?
Posted on 11/22/25 at 4:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 11/22/25 at 4:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
let me help you understand something jethro i've been paying into social security since i was 16, paying the maximum in since i was 26, last year they raised the maximum 16k in one fricking year, from 160k to 176k. yesterday i got letter from AARP asking me to support raising the max to 250k. like that's going to do any good it will get there in 5 years on it's own if they do nothing. i'm 64 now if i wait to 70 to take it i'll 5k a month, i'm gonna get that money even if it means printing it out of thin air
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 5:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Worship it to the extent that they won’t even consider changes that would generate higher returns and to keep it solvent for lomger. They would rather see if go bankrupt than consider any changes to make it work better and longer term. It’s insanity
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
No government programs in the USA are in danger of insolvency. Propaganda for votes is what that is about! If the government can print trillions for wars, they can do the same for any program. Buy BTC.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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how the govt essentially is stealing your money and giving you a horrible return.
I thought you were a liberal left wing nut? This is a conservative stance to take.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The problem with “saving” social security is that it is the big investment firms that want to get their hands on that money and “give” a return on that money to those poor old retirees. Vanguard is a prime example of this.
In reality they will keep in the fine print that “all investments have risk” and screw over the retirees as soon as they face any loss. Or better yet, when the economy takes a dive they will go whining to the government that taxpayers need to bail them out or those poor old retirees will be hurt.
In reality they will keep in the fine print that “all investments have risk” and screw over the retirees as soon as they face any loss. Or better yet, when the economy takes a dive they will go whining to the government that taxpayers need to bail them out or those poor old retirees will be hurt.
This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I had a contract. Paid into it for 37 years. I expect the fed to live up to their side. Where's the worship?
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
What are you from generational wealth?
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It’s typically older center-left folks who are not necessarily socially liberal.
Not sure about the socially liberal part but my guess is if people who have worked 40-50 years had the option of taking a lump sum payment (with 4-5% annual interest added) from the government for all the taxes that were paid in social security and medicare taxes they would take that lump sum and call it good.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Social Security is a government run Ponzi Scheme. It can only pay old “investors” with money from new “investors”. To the extent that new investors quit investing, the whole thing crashes and burns.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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If you're not capable of understanding why or think it's weird for older people of any political leaning to have an affinity for protecting social security than you're more stupid than any of us already think you are
^^^^^ this is all I got...
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:10 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Social security is a half truth, so yea it’s crap.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:15 pm to ghost_rider10
Government just needs to throw half of the fund in the SP500 and we’ll grow it back into solvency.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Social security reform specifically exempts current beneficiaries.
That’s cool
The rest that worship it are of your kind.
How about eliminating fraud and corruption in the program first?
Same as Medicare and Medicaid
Posted on 11/22/25 at 9:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
True
It is an afterthought for me.
It is an afterthought for me.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:20 pm to Enadious
You will never see that money again. Tell me you understand this.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:28 pm to lurking
OP, I am 55 and have been putting money in SS for over 30 years. You damn right I am concerned…..hard core conservative here. Oh…and frick YOU
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:30 pm to tigerbait3488
If you’re 55, you elected the people that pillaged it. Why am I supposed to be sympathetic about your poor choices?
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:33 pm to lurking
Really??? My poor choices!??? frick you
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:36 pm to tigerbait3488
Uh. Yes?
Every conservative since Ronald Reagan has told you SS is broken and a scam. You cried like you are now about how you’re entitled to it instead of listening. It’s my money hurr durr
Every conservative since Ronald Reagan has told you SS is broken and a scam. You cried like you are now about how you’re entitled to it instead of listening. It’s my money hurr durr
This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 11/23/25 at 6:04 am to dickkellog
quote:F***! The AARP!
yesterday i got letter from AARP asking me to support raising the max to 250k.
FWIW, I'm not sure you and the OP are at odds on SS.
E.g., IMO SS stinks to High Heaven.
I'd like for the program to be wound down and optionally privatized.
But if someone has paid in, the US government must pay out in accordance with its promissory obligations.
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