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Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:32 am to udtiger
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In other words... You're going to get him as AG whether you want him or not. So you may as well confirm him
This is the only reason he can be to be giving Thune a heads up
Trump, the merciful
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:39 am to RoyalWe
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A Republican not afraid to use their power instead of cow-towing to [whatever obstacle]. Amazing
If Trump isn’t careful, he might actually embolden some prior cowards
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:42 am to NashvilleTider
cant wait to hear why the act is "unconstitutional" from the left
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:44 am to NashvilleTider
That's not accurate. Directly prohibited by the Vacancies Act.
LINK
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(1)Notwithstanding subsection (a)(1), a person may not serve as an acting officer for an office under this section, if—
(B)the President submits a nomination of such person to the Senate for appointment to such office.
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A person nominated to a position may not concurrently serve as an acting officer for that position unless that person is in a "first assistant" position to that office and either has served in that position for at least 90 days, or was appointed to that position through the advice and consent process.
LINK
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:45 am to NashvilleTider
Lot’s of ways to skin this cat. This is another one, and appears the slickest, yet.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 10:52 am to NashvilleTider
Trump the first administration was led around and thwarted by the likes of McConnell, Thune, Cornyn, and Sessions. He learned a hard but very important lesson.
He's not going to make the same mistakes this time. I really hope he forces the Senate and house into recess and then can also install a lot of very friendly constitutional judges without delay.
He's not going to make the same mistakes this time. I really hope he forces the Senate and house into recess and then can also install a lot of very friendly constitutional judges without delay.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:19 am to Lsuhoohoo
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A person nominated to a position may not concurrently serve as an acting officer for that position unless that person is in a "first assistant" position to that office and either has served in that position for at least 90 days, or was appointed to that position through the advice and consent process.
Well, that pretty much solves that. On to the next plan.
And mark "LeotheLion" off the list of X sources.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 11:23 am
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:30 am to Lsuhoohoo
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Directly prohibited by the Vacancies Act.
They’re already counting votes. If they don’t get the commitments, they’ll go vacancy.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:44 am to Lsujacket66
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Why do people link to a literal nobody and assign it actual relevancy. There’s literally no reason to take this tweet seriously
You are getting DV'd, but your point is not any less valid. When anonymous "LeoTheLion" on X says it's true without any validation, we are supposed to accept that it is? While that doesn't mean this isn't the case, it should still give everyone a moment of pause to say "who the hell is this dude and why should I believe him?"
So far, the only official info we have seen is that Trump will use recess appointments, which actually is better than this temporary measure if true.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:44 am to Barbados
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Democrats got every wack job piece of shite in Biden wanted easily
RINOs are sickening
Just remember - TWENTY Republican Senators voted to confirm Biden's pick Merrick Garland as AG in 2021. Those same twenty Republican senators are part of the hold up from confirming a REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE that the President-elect chose.
This must be screamed from every rooftop. And soon it needs to be pointed out by the future President himself.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:46 am to idlewatcher
We love it because it is required!
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:47 am to Lsujacket66
Can we give some butt salve or would you prefer vaginal cream?
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:49 am to Midget Death Squad
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You are getting DV'd, but your point is not any less valid. When anonymous "LeoTheLion" on X says it's true without any validation, we are supposed to accept that it is? While that doesn't mean this isn't the case, it should still give everyone a moment of pause to say "who the hell is this dude and why should I believe him?"
Yep. And considering the very law this random guy quoted precludes this approach from being used with Gaetz, I think it is safe to say the guy is full of shite.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:50 am to LegendInMyMind
Has Gaetz been officially nominated?
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:54 am to Lsuhoohoo
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Directly prohibited by the Vacancies Act.
If Trump fails to submit the nomination to the Senate, then there is no prohibition, if I read it correctly. It appears he can install Gaetz without a problem, and then submit a nomination for him and then keep him there for quite a long time whether he is confirmed or not, which gives them quite a bit of time to produce some persuasive material for confirmation votes.
ETA the Act is for appointing people, so it would not seem to preclude being appointed to fill the vacancy, and then getting nominated to the Senate. It would be nonsense to have that in place. What if you appoint someone and they turn out to be great, now they have to leave if you nominate them to the Senate? Does not make much sense.
And there are some dirty tricks to be played here. Gaetz can stay until max time without confirmation. He can leave for a day, and then Trump can put him right back in there, iirc.
Also, about these appointments - the precedent has been set to just leave people in there and it would be a very contentious issue on whether they have legit authority or not, but Trump could just assume the authority is still there.
If you go to this link GAO you'll see the GAO has issued a ton of letters to the Biden admin letting them know that an official has exceeded the time limit for appointments under this act, in a ton of different positions.
Here is an example, notice issued in July:
Pursuant to section 3349(b) of title 5 of the United States Code, we are reporting a violation of the Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 at the U.S. Department of Agriculture with respect to the position of Under Secretary of Agriculture for Food, Nutrition, and Consumer Services. Specifically, we are reporting that the service of Sivakumar Narayan Chandran as Acting Under Secretary from January 16, 2024, through the present day is in violation of the Act.
I'm not sure where this person is now. But he was there past the time limit, we know that. I don't see that anyone said actions at USDA were therefore not legitimate. I guess Trump can just keep people in these positions. There is obviously no accountability when people stick around. He should make DC live by the rules they created.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:55 am to NashvilleTider
Awesome.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 12:10 pm to fightvance
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I can’t believe this dictator is using the laws that Congress created.
Laws that Congress under the Clinton administration created, too. Beautiful.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 1:45 pm to NashvilleTider
Trump is not fricking around this time!! They done gone and pissed off the wrong one!! He knows what they did to him was just the beginning and would not end if it were to go unchecked.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:15 pm to GumboPot
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But remember, Gaetz is a shiny object. The people that will get confirmed with no problem are Trump's former defense lawyers, Todd Blanche and Emile Bove. Todd Blanche is slated to serve as Deputy Attorney General, the second-highest position in the Department of Justice (DOJ), while Emil Bove will assume the role of Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General, the department's third-ranking official. These are the baws that will be doing the real work.
You can count on Gumbo, this is a great point. Many in MSM say "they were Trump's lawyers" as if that is the only experience they have. They have experience in DA offices of NY and Fed, they will be the worker bees while Gaetz runs cover.
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