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re: Trump’s wing it and troll economic plan: There is no plan.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:10 pm to theballguy
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:10 pm to theballguy
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But still looking for substance and an actual vision or solid road map put out there for everyone to follow.
He’s doing the same thing Reagan did and getting the same results. What the fuuck better road map could you ask for? Fuuck you with your leftist propaganda bullshiit.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:11 pm to soonerinlOUisiana
reagan naturalized like 15 million illegals
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:19 pm to el Gaucho
Yea. Reagan fricked up that amnesty bullshite.
Orange won’t be duplicating that one.
Orange won’t be duplicating that one.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:26 pm to theballguy
He has basically created a new class of weapon and is using it to snuff wars worldwide. Tariffs. These tools require tuning constantly in the beginning till an equilibrium is found. And you have to be able to hold on through the transition period. He's just stubborn enough to do that. Especially if he gets his congress in the midterms.
What concerns me is the future. We will need to continually reevaluate and modulate the tariffs on certain products. That requires vigilance which is not a thing bureaucrats excel at. I'm worried we won't have anyone with Trump's gifts to keep the whip in hand.
What concerns me is the future. We will need to continually reevaluate and modulate the tariffs on certain products. That requires vigilance which is not a thing bureaucrats excel at. I'm worried we won't have anyone with Trump's gifts to keep the whip in hand.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:38 pm to Captain Rumbeard
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He has basically created a new class of weapon
the new class of weapon is immigration
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:12 am to SDVTiger
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You ppl say this yet restaurants are packed. Disney is packed. Nightclubs packed. Vegas packed. NyC packed. Miami packrd Vacations packed. I mean maybe it sucks in if you live in a tent in Alasaka like a certain poster but i just dont see the disaster the panicans talk about Maybe all these ppl with 2% mortgages rates with 500k in equity should payoff all their debt and take the 5% mortgage instead of clinging to their brag rate
That was certainly the conversation from 2020-2024. The counter argument was that inflation was outpacing wages and everyone in the USA was living large on credit.
But now vegas is basically shuttered due to high costs and getting a seat on the front of the plane is much easier now.
The service sector is taking a beating. Look at the leading indicators. Hotels, airlines, restaurants, and providers like Toast are all getting crushed in share price. Toast is down 10% in five months.
Fox News says people over 18 don’t need Christmas gifts.
We’re back to the narrative that people are poor because they indulge on avocado toast and feeding kids breakfast is a luxury.
In my key markets, especially Florida the businesses are getting killed. Florida is down 75% in foreign travel and that accounts for about 25% of all business during certain months.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 1:17 am
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:24 am to KCRoyalBlue
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Fuel and groceries have gone down a bit in my area. The company I work for also just set sales records last month.
Much of the same with my families major construction company. Also another company I know, they can’t get bids out fast enough.
These two are in two different states.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:43 am to theballguy
There is a plan. You just have to look.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 11/20/25 at 2:10 am to theballguy
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The costs for groceries, housing, healthcare, and utilities are still rising...
The four things you mention are inflating for different reasons but...
The inflation under the man who showered with his 14 year old daughter (i.e. Biden's) administration was triggered by the massive spending promulgated by and passed by the demoncrat party.
When Trump was sworn in only half that money had been released (i.e. spent), the other half is/was in the pipeline and can not be stopped so it should be no surprise we are still seeing inflation.
The US economy is like a huge ship, it takes some time to turn it
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:31 am to JayDub
I am quite aware of grocery prices as i shop weekly for 4 people.
Food prices went up by 1/3 under Biden. It was an agressive, brutal rise. After the election, they stabalized and are at roughly the same level as they were when Trump was elected.
Fast food is a bit lower under Trump.
The OP is blaming Trump for higher prices that were already present the day he took the office. The democrats are are attacking Trump for failing to completely undo prices after 10 months in office they steadily increased over 4 years.
Food prices went up by 1/3 under Biden. It was an agressive, brutal rise. After the election, they stabalized and are at roughly the same level as they were when Trump was elected.
Fast food is a bit lower under Trump.
The OP is blaming Trump for higher prices that were already present the day he took the office. The democrats are are attacking Trump for failing to completely undo prices after 10 months in office they steadily increased over 4 years.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 3:33 am
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:34 am to theballguy
Thread right under yours
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The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the third quarter of 2025 is 4.2 percent on November 19, up from 4.1 on November 17. After recent releases from the US Census Bureau and the US Bureau of Economic Analysis, a decrease in the nowcast of third-quarter real gross private domestic investment growth from 4.9 percent to 4.8 percent was more than offset by an increase in the nowcast of the contribution of net exports to third-quarter real GDP growth from 0.57 percentage points to 0.78 percentage points.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 3:42 am to RiverCityTider
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The OP is blaming Trump for higher prices that were already present the day he took the office. The democrats are are attacking Trump for failing to completely undo prices after 10 months in office they steadily increased over 4 years.
I’m in a multiple segments of the economy. Sysco and a two other restaurant supply companies are telling me that tariffs are killing them. We raised prices by about 5% across the board this week because of costs. I’ve met with struggling tenants to encourage them to do the same thing.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 5:40 am to theballguy
quote:typical leftist (or TDS victim, same thing), going on 'feels'
What’s frustrating is that the economy under Trump is doing as badly or worse as it did under Biden.
And we are less than 7 months since economic liberation (from foreigners that is, not Congress) day. Less than a year into the administration.
quote:so you prefer deflation? One day y'all will learn how it works (whom am I kidding, no you won't). Prices on average always rise. Inflation is always above zero; wages just have to keep up. It is a function of the rate of that rise (as compared to wages). Deflation is, in many aspects, way more devastating than inflation.
The costs for groceries, housing, healthcare, and utilities are still rising
quote:He is a poltician. Want beef prices to come down? He puts that want, as long as it a want of the majority or the need for the overall good, ahead of any of his own beliefs to make it happen- that's democracy in action.
Trump seems more effective at political posturing. He's becoming good now at trolling and “owning” Americans instead of just libs and overseas adversaries.
Trump is luckiest sumbtich alive to get these results with no plan whatsoever and the worst nazi in history to be so responsive to wants/needs of the people.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 5:44 am to Motownsix
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That was certainly the conversation from 2020-2024. The counter argument was that inflation was outpacing wages and everyone in the USA was living large on credit. But now vegas is basically shuttered due to high costs and getting a seat on the front of the plane is much easier now. The service sector is taking a beating. Look at the leading indicators. Hotels, airlines, restaurants, and providers like Toast are all getting crushed in share price. Toast is down 10% in five months. Fox News says people over 18 don’t need Christmas gifts. We’re back to the narrative that people are poor because they indulge on avocado toast and feeding kids breakfast is a luxury. In my key markets, especially Florida the businesses are getting killed. Florida is down 75% in foreign travel and that accounts for about 25% of all business during certain months.
With all that said…. The Atlanta fed just estimated third quarter GDP growth of 4.2%. To add to the 2nd quarter growth of 3.8%.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 6:01 am
Posted on 11/20/25 at 5:50 am to theballguy
At least he has a plan; unlike Biden.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 5:56 am to theballguy
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What’s frustrating is that the economy under Trump is doing as badly or worse as it did under Biden.
Biden’s last quarterly GDP growth of first Q 25 was negative. The Atlanta Fed just yesterday estimated the third quarter GDP growth of 4.2%.
That’s almost a swing of 5% between the two.
That’s not counting a 2nd Q actual GDP growth of plus 3.8 percent.
Turn off your programming.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 6:00 am
Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:05 am to theballguy
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No need to be insulting.
They actually do have a need. It’s a defense mechanism
Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:09 am to theballguy
quote:In your case, that is obviously not true. E.g., We've all heard that Biden stuck Trump with the smallest US domestic beef supply since 1951.
As this goes on, we can only blame the last administration for so long. They certainly fricked it up. That has never been in doubt.
But that doesn't tell half the story.
The US population is over double the size of that in 1951.
So in per capita terms, there are currently 25.5 cattle per 100 people vs 52 per hundred people in 1951. Going back further, the cattle:population ratio even during the Great Depression/Dust Bowl Era mimicked the 1951 numbers, and never even came close to our current supply-demand mismatch.
The last time our cattle herd was this relatively small was in 1894!
You want to snap your fingers and fix that problem in six months?
Are you kidding?
So when you say "we can only blame the last administration for so long," it's painfully obvious you have no clue as to how bad the last administration was.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:09 am to tbranfLSU
quote:bullshite!
9% was at the peak of the pandemic.
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