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CBS Sports drops "Buyer Beware" tags on Ruben Bain and Jordyn Tyson et al
Posted on 4/15/26 at 10:05 am
Posted on 4/15/26 at 10:05 am
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Rueben Bain Jr., EDGE, Miami
Why: Short arms, relies more on power and motor than refined pass-rush plan, might not age well in the NFL
Rueben Bain Jr. dominated in his final season with the Miami Hurricanes by helping power them to national runner-up finish in 2025. He earned the Ted Hendricks Award as the nation's best edge rusher after leading the country with 83 quarterback pressures, the most by an FBS player in a season since 2017. That number was also aided by his FBS-most 533 pass-rush snaps, 98 more than the next closest player. Bain did also turn it on in the clutch with five of his nine-and-a-half sacks coming in the College Football Playoffs.
However, the All-American has 30?-inch arms, which makes him undersized in the NFL where offensive tackles are bigger, longer and more athletic. Not being able to bend and detach from lengthier offensive tackles is a legitimate concern, and Bain isn't incredibly explosive off the snap. He wins with power, his bull rush and his motor. Operating this way allowed him to be like a man among boys in college, but that style of play may not age well in the NFL where the athleticism gap is much, much smaller. Bain also didn't perform any athletic testing at the combine or Miami's pro day, only doing measurements and position drills. The questions about how his game will translate at the next level could have been tempered to a degree with strong athletic testing, but Bain declined to help himself in that department. That could cause him to potentially slide out of the draft's first 10 picks.
CBS Sports NFL insider Jonathan Jones reports NFL teams are aware of Bain's legal history, and they consider his past transgressions in that area handled.
Jordyn Tyson, WR, Arizona State
Why: Concerning injury history that prevented him from working out at the combine and ASU Pro Day
There's a case to be made that Arizona State wide receiver Jordyn Tyson is the 2026 NFL Draft's most explosive wide receiver after the catch. He's phenomenal at maintaining his stride after the catch before breaking free for massive amounts of yards after the catch. That's one of the many reasons why he led the Big 12 in catches (136) while ranking second in receiving yards (1,812) and receiving touchdowns (18) across the last two seasons. Since 2024, only Tyson, Ohio State's Jeremiah Smith and UConn's Skyler Bell are the only three players in the nation with 1,800-plus receiving yards and 18-plus receiving touchdowns.
However, his lengthy injury history is a clear red flag. Tyson blew out his knee as a freshman at Colorado by tearing his ACL, PCL and MCL in his left knee. He suffered a broken left collarbone injury that prevented him from suiting up for the Sun Devils in the 2024 Big 12 Championship Game and the College Football Playoffs. Tyson's hamstring injury from the 2025 season is still bothersome to the point where he has yet to perform any athletic testing at both the combine and Arizona State's pro day.
Tyson himself knows how the optics of his latest injury have led to his draft stock to deflate, which is why he is holding a workout for NFL teams on April 17 to show he can still move at an elite level. His draft status heavily relies on him having a successful showing six days before the first round kicks off in Pittsburgh.
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 10:33 am to L.A.
The big test for Jordyn Tyson will be on the 17th. That's when he has his private workout scheduled. If he isn't healthy enough to do athletic testing, it might cause a big drop in the draft.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:17 am to L.A.
So, you're saying these two guys will be OROY and DROY at the end of 2026 season? Turn on the tape and do your own research.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:24 am to L.A.
quote:Didn't everyone say Bain's "bend" was incredible at his workouts and on film? Did I imagine that?
undersized in the NFL where offensive tackles are bigger, longer and more athletic. Not being able to bend and detach from lengthier offensive tackles is a legitimate concern
Posted on 4/15/26 at 11:30 am to Burt Macklin
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Didn't everyone say Bain's "bend" was incredible at his workouts and on film? Did I imagine that?
I remember that too.
Arval Reese is the one that came out of the combine with with obvious deficiencies at bend ability. from my recollection.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 10:29 pm to Burt Macklin
quote:It is. That is one of his strengths.
Didn't everyone say Bain's "bend" was incredible at his workouts and on film? Did I imagine that?
Posted on 4/16/26 at 4:58 am to NOSHAU
I thought that was one thing he did really well? Gets low and gets around the edge before the long-armed tackles can get their hands on him?
Posted on 4/16/26 at 6:15 am to L.A.
Yeah he better be bending like a mfer bc those big ,long armed tackles are going to abuse this guy. Hes not gonna be able to just power his way through like he could often do in college. Maybe he masters it and continues his success at the next level. Either way as bad as I’ve crapped on Bain on this board I do truly believe he’d be a very good run stuffer coming off the edge . That’s what I see. Good to elite against the run. Very average at getting to the qb. Do we want that with our 8 pick ? I guess we’ll know in a week. He’s been mocked for us more than any other player.
Idk why but my Payton Turner spidey senses are going off with this fella. I can already hear the in-season/late season arguments on this board about whether or not he’s a bust .
Idk why but my Payton Turner spidey senses are going off with this fella. I can already hear the in-season/late season arguments on this board about whether or not he’s a bust .
This post was edited on 4/16/26 at 6:24 am
Posted on 4/16/26 at 7:49 am to jkylejohnson
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Idk why but my Payton Turner spidey senses are going off with this fella
Idk either. Turner was the opposite. He had the ideal size/measurables . He just didn't have a lot of dominant production in college. Bain has the production. The questions are with his size/measurables
Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:05 am to Alt26
Bain gives Brandon Graham vibes. He’s an inch taller but has arms an inch shorter. Same weight and explosion. Same competitiveness. Neither supposed to have great lateral movement although Graham proved that assessment wrong.
Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:17 am to jmcwhrter
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Gets low and gets around the edge before the long-armed tackles can get their hands on him?
He gets low, but it's not clear if he can do it before they have the opportunity to eliminate him. The issues with his step/explosiveness were not answered as he was a coward who didn't work out.
On tape he seems to be almost all power, which is going to be very weird to rely on in the NFL with his height/arms.
If he had elite speed and used that, like a Freeney, the bend would be a lot more valuable.
Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:17 am to jkylejohnson
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I do truly believe he’d be a very good run stuffer coming off the edge .
Isn't arm length quite important for run D on the DL?
Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:20 am to Jojodaddy
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He’s an inch taller but has arms an inch shorter. Same weight and explosion.
BG ran a 4.72/1.65
Bain didn't run. I have to imagine if he could run a 4.72/1.65 he wouldn't have avoiding working out.
Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:51 am to Jojodaddy
Maybe there are ways to compensate for alligator arms…
Posted on 4/16/26 at 12:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The issues with his step/explosiveness were not answered as he was a coward who didn't work out.
When I pointed the question about his explosiveness months ago when they had threads on here about him being the number one overall pick, I got downvoted and said I didn’t know what I was talking about.
Now months later it’s a real concern.
This post was edited on 4/16/26 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 4/16/26 at 2:15 pm to VOR
So Campbell vs Bain to see which position short arms really effects.
Posted on 4/16/26 at 2:28 pm to VOR
I've seen clips of Bain basically just knocking down lineman's hands and arms before they could get on him.
Bain does have very strong hands. I mean I know that that's not going to win him every battle in the pros obviously but what I see is a guy who's a pain in the arse to block.
I think if he got deployed in a certain way in a pro defense he could do some damage.
but I get why a lot of people don't want him. a lot of people are big believer in arm length.
Bain does have very strong hands. I mean I know that that's not going to win him every battle in the pros obviously but what I see is a guy who's a pain in the arse to block.
I think if he got deployed in a certain way in a pro defense he could do some damage.
but I get why a lot of people don't want him. a lot of people are big believer in arm length.
Posted on 4/16/26 at 3:40 pm to Townedrunkard
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When I pointed the question about his explosiveness months ago when they had threads on here about him being the number one overall pick, I got downvoted and said I didn’t know what I was talking about.
Now months later it’s a real concern.
you are such a pussy. 90% of your posts are crying about he said, I said shite. ALL THE TIME
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