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re: Was McMahon hired because he was the only option?
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:07 am to Rabbs and QStick
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:07 am to Rabbs and QStick
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They were never behind benches in Brady era. They were opposite of the benches.
Correct. I took their post as sideline. Not necessarily which sideline.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:17 am to tigersbb
Tigersbb in full denial needs to protect his sugar daddy. The false narratives is you defending this clown who is outcoached in every game he is in and has no idea how to develop talent. Why u thi k the PMAC is dead!
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:17 am to tigersbb
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I don't give a shite if they decide to replace him
You keep saying this but yet keep giving these unhinged defenses of any OBJECTIVE criticism of McMahon. You’re not fooling anyone. Here are some numbers for you to chew on:
16-52 SEC record
ZERO NCAA TOURNAMENT APPEARANCES
0-1 in his only post game game. And that loss was a home game.
ZERO PLAYERS DRAFTED
Let me know if you have any questions, Grandpa.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:25 am to Circle K Beggar
Hey Circle K stop trying to confuse Tigersbb with actual facts and logic you know he doesn't believe in that stuff.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:29 am to Big4SALTbro
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Scott had us behind on NIL, so far behind in fact that ole miss was kicking the shite out of our NIL
I know this isn't the main point of the conversation but LSU chose to (now correctly) play the long game when it came to NIL. They knew a few things:
1. Collectives weren't going to remain a thing once the House case was settled.
2. Average fans weren't going to fund direct player compensation long-term.
Which is why LSU kept Bayou Traditions out of the public eye and funded primarily by top-end boosters for 2 years. Only when the House settlement got delayed did they push the program out to the masses for 12-18 months.
This worked out in LSU's favor has the NIL Max program is going to garner far more interest (and money) than average fan support long-term. Which is where Ole Miss is now left scrambling.
Critique Woodward all you want but credit LSU Admin for thinking on a slightly longer horizon than programs like Ole Miss.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:37 am to Rudy40
Hey a-hole if Willis Reed and Isiah Thomas weren’t out we’d be undefeated.
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 9:37 am
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:57 am to Sheriff Brackett
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Went back and saw that there was 9 days between when Wade was fired and McMahon was hired. I remember it being incredibly rushed at the time.
MM was a semi-hot name at the time. He could have just as easy been a diamond in the rough than a flame out.
Thing is - we knew last season. Then we had to wait through this season. It will be impossible for them to sell us on waiting another. It just isn't going to happen.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 9:58 am to Sheriff Brackett
But moving forward I am thinking we need to pursue some of the following and give them a chance.
Chris Carrawell (Duke Assistant)
Kimani Young (UCONN Assistant)
Kellen Sampson (Houston Assistant)
Tasmin Mitchell and Marcus Thornton also deserve to have their names in the hat. Louisiana Natives that deeply care about the program. Guys that embrace the culture of the state and are passionate about the game as well.
Chris Carrawell (Duke Assistant)
Kimani Young (UCONN Assistant)
Kellen Sampson (Houston Assistant)
Tasmin Mitchell and Marcus Thornton also deserve to have their names in the hat. Louisiana Natives that deeply care about the program. Guys that embrace the culture of the state and are passionate about the game as well.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:13 am to tigersbb
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Yes, and Mwani played only 12 games and had shoulder surgery, Adam Miller was returning from major knee surgery and has never rewturned to his pre-injury status and Justice had a half season of experience after graduating high school at med year the previou season.
Fair enough, he had opportunity to re-recruit others besides those 3.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:16 am to Sheriff Brackett
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I vaguely remember seeing something about McMahon basically being a stop gap due to the investigation before they hired someone who can actually coach.
That was the talking point at the time. McMahon was the safe hire. Was supposed to have a high floor and would have LSU in the middle of the pack in the SEC, with the potential for an occasional Week 2 of tourney run.
But it's incompetency to give a stop gap safe hire a 7 year (with an automatic 8th if penalties came down) contract. Yes, in theory, if he had won then you have a successful cheap coach on a long term contract. But, if McMahon had been successful, LSU still would have had to renegotiate to keep him from getting poached anyways.
eta: Too bad NIL wasn't in it's current form back then. Might have been able to convince Tari Eason to stay. Tari Eason and KJ Williams would have been a dangerous combination. A healthy Shareef O'Neal would have been a solid contributor too. But that goes back to re-recruiting the current roster when a new coach comes in.
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 10:39 am
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:42 am to Pnels08
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Woody got duped.
#BrianKellyisalazyMFer
#Woodygetsdupedeasily
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 10:43 am
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:13 am to Tiger Ugly
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Fair enough, he had opportunity to re-recruit others besides those 3.
I believe teh biggest hurdle to keep the players was the uncertainty of whether they would be barred from post season play.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:28 am to tigersbb
quote:If I'm not mistaken, CoachMc was able to retain 3 players from LSU (mentioned prior in thread) and bring 4 (including KJ) from Murray St. CoachMc also said he could have brought more if he wanted.
I believe teh biggest hurdle to keep the players was the uncertainty of whether they would be barred from post season play.
The zero players narrative is more fan driven and AD year zero (Woody) driven than actual Coach driven.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:31 am to Tiger Ugly
quote:Most were gone pecans. The only one I wanted at the end was O'Neal. Her would have fit well next to KJ.
Fair enough, he had opportunity to re-recruit others besides those 3.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:32 am to EastWestConnection
quote:To think Woodward cared about any fans is truly stupid. Just like politicians, all the LSU athletic dept. administrators care about is their own power and salary. And I don't know how many times it has to be pointed out that fans support a winner and if LSU basketball ever become that, as in the Dale Brown era, the PMAC will be full and rocking. When Pete Maravich came to town, people who had never seen a basketball game bought season tickets.
I think he was hired because Scott didnt give a shite about basketball and knew that most of the fans didnt really care either. Baseball and Football hires are way more important at LSU.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:44 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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That was the talking point at the time. McMahon was the safe hire. Was supposed to have a high floor and would have LSU in the middle of the pack in the SEC, with the potential for an occasional Week 2 of tourney run.
ON PAPER McMahon wasn't a bad hire. Particularly when compared to the other 5 coaches hired by SEC schools that cycle. Every year there is a new batch of successful mid-major coaches hired by major conf. teams. This year Josh Schertz at St Louis will likely lead that group. SLU is projected as a 7-8 seed in the NCAA Tournament. McMahon's Murray St. team in 2022 was a great team. They were a 7 seed in the NCAA Tournament....which is really high for a team from a one-bid league. In fact, they were the highest seeded one-bid league team that season.
No one (well no one who knew what they were talking about) looked at is as a "stop gap" hire. Given the circumstances, at the time, it looked like as good of a hire as LSU could have hoped for.
Unfortunately, it hasn't been. And that started literally from his second every SEC game...which would be followed by 13 straight losses after that. He's not the first mid-major HC hire who couldn't hack it at the major conf. level and won't be the last. But that doesn't mean you keep kicking this can down the road. MOVE.ON
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:49 am to mmcgrath
quote:We've hashed this out over the years, but I will say, getting KJ to follow CoachMc should have meant something. Instead 2-16 SEC. He wasn't nearly as hamstrung as people want to state.
Most were gone pecans. The only one I wanted at the end was O'Neal. Her would have fit well next to KJ.
We're - I am - tired of the excuses. The rope is long gone.
What is the Feb 23rd talking point? Yesterday it was, "Are you paying the buyout?"
ETA: At minimum 10 posters stated the laziest argument.
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 11:58 am
Posted on 2/23/26 at 12:29 pm to drizztiger
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We've hashed this out over the years, but I will say, getting KJ to follow CoachMc should have meant something. Instead 2-16 SEC. He wasn't nearly as hamstrung as people want to state.
We're - I am - tired of the excuses. The rope is long gone.
Yeah, I never did buy the year zero stuff - there are some that did and still do - o.k. - I disagree but I can at least listen to the arguments - I did and have and I still disagree.
But we've had 3 years since
Posted on 2/23/26 at 12:42 pm to Tiger Ugly
quote:I think some of us have discourse, listen and talk to each other.
Tiger Ugly
You're a longtime physical team proponent.
Identity. Have one. We don't have that under CoachMc.
And they think we're the problem. Only people that still give a shite.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 12:49 pm to drizztiger
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You're a longtime physical team proponent.
We've been soft for 4 years - that's indisputable. I tried to dial it back this year because I've harped on it ad nauseum, but it really is IMHO the biggest recurring issue with is teams, and it affect about every aspect of the game outside free throw shooting.
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