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re: Dear Conservative. The Insurrection Act history lesson.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:42 am to Tunasntigers92
Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:42 am to Tunasntigers92
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Trump supporters wants Americans internet taken away now
So many have become cheerleaders for expansion of Federal power, and believe that the authority of the Executive should be unchecked (not necessarily referring to the Insurrection Act). They've come to love them some Big Government.
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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The idiocy also applies to both sides. This is turning MAGA and the Trump admin into the fascists the Left always hoped they'd turn into. As these things keep happening, more people are being severely hurt by the ICE/fed response and amplified in the leftist sphere.
I don't agree with that paragraph at all.
First of all, not enforcing federal law because people are interfering in the enforcement of federal law is basically just rewarding bad behavior. You give in to your toddler throwing a fit, you teach him that's how he gets his way.
Secondly, if they aren't going to enforce immigration law they need to change it. But on reflection, they don't need to change it—it's fine. So they need to enforce it. This game of having these laws but not enforcing them has been going on since at least Obama, and it's asinine.
Third, nobody is being "hurt by ICE" except people inserting themselves in harm's way. Again, you back off because people are doing that, you guarantee more of it in the future.
I'm not really concerned about "winning elections." I know you are. You're afraid to oppose abortion because you're afraid Republicans will lose elections (even though that didn't happen at all), afraid for ICE to enforce federal law because we'll lose elections.
I'm 55 and the biggest frustration as a citizen I have experienced during my lifetime is that the Republican Party has almost always been afraid to advance it's agenda for worrying about losing elections. In fact, that's why we have Trump at the head of it now. People became so sick of electing Republicans who didn't advance a conservative agenda that they abandoned conservatism altogether in favor of a guy whom they perceive doesn't give a frick and isn't scared to advance his agenda.
Like Chris Rock, I don't agree with that...but I understand it. What's the point of winning elections if you can't advance the agenda you were elected to advance?
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Ultimately they will have to back off a bit or escalate and use things like the Insurrection Act and prosecuting pols and veer off into their own Clown World. The emotional escalation will continue until one side backs down or there is a legit move to authoritarian measures.
I also don't understand why using troops is completely off limits. I'm not talking about the insanity that the OP is advocating for—turning out the lights and killing the internet in Minnesota—but troops and or FBI have been deployed before to ensure the enforcement of federal law. Eisenhower did it in Arkansas in 1957, in Alabama in the early 60s, during the mid 60s election suppression period, etc., and Trump sent federal tactical teams to several places during the BLM riots (and got re-elected).
The left is going to call Trump a fascist no matter what he does. That's important to remember. No matter what he does, the narrative is going to be the same. Backing off this won't change it one bit.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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The idiocy also applies to both sides.
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name one thing the democrats' actions in MN represent that is congruent with honest and responsible government.
please describe the Democrats actions in MN as non-idiocy.
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I don't think you understand the conversation that was going on. Try again.
ditto
Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:47 am to Tunasntigers92
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Nah, these Trump sycophants want this.
Dude, I see very few “Trump sycophants” here … what I clearly see is a large electorate that voted to enforce the laws of the United States.
It is clear to any honest person that there are paid provocateurs that are inciting violence for ideology reasons in Minnie. Some of the citizens aren’t happy about ICE, and they have right to protest legally. Personally, I suspect they would get far better results by protesting their congressional members than field officers that are just trying to perform their jobs.
ICE is enforcing the existing laws of the US …. laws that Congress has the ability to change any law they see fit, if they have the support to do so.
Minnie leadership and provocateur forces outside the state of MN are participating in insurrection. This is the Marxist playbook.
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Border Czar Tom Homan notes the Trump administration is looking carefully at who is funding the organized anti-ICE protests throughout the Minneapolis, Minnesota region. Homan’s remarks are seemingly in alignment with what Treasury Secretary and IRS Commissioner Scott Bessent has noted about his investigative group, further stating that investigations will likely reveal who is funding the street protests against ICE and Border Patrol officials.
Specific to the ongoing investigations, Homan notes, “justice is coming” against those who are coordinating the violence, and information about that activity is likely to be revealed “real soon.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's isolated to Minnesota, mostly a state issue, and will tire itself out, especially if the admin gets smart and backs off the super-aggro enforcement policies
It is isolated to sections of several communities in Minn. I have several facilities in Minn that fall under my umbrella. Three just south of MSP. I was at the one closest to SP last week. It was business as usual for everyone there. Anecdotal, but the people who did instigate conversations about what was happening were not on the side of the protestors.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 8:47 am to LegendInMyMind
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Trump supporters wants Americans internet taken away now
So many have become cheerleaders for expansion of Federal power, and believe that the authority of the Executive should be unchecked (not necessarily referring to the Insurrection Act). They've come to love them some Big Government
So, you think it's all good in Minnesota?
The governor threatening to deploy state national guard to go after Federal ICE agents carrying out Federal law enforcement???
I agree, big government is a bad thing, but it serves a purpose, and I believe this would be an appropriate use of Federal government authority.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:06 am to Tunasntigers92
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Trump supporters wants Americans internet taken away now
Scary.
Maybe they want to remove the people who broke the law to enter the country and are here illegally while also combatting tremendous fraud that has cost the American taxpayers 100's of billions, maybe over a trillion, dollars.
Maybe Minneapolis can be an example of the raw power of the federal government acting under constitutional authority.
I pray this goes down. It is way bigger than any "Rodney King" type riots.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:11 am to the808bass
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I can’t see any real justification for the Insurrection Act. Not politically.
I'm not advocating for it. This was just a response to stupidity out of ignorance to our constitution and history.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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This is turning MAGA and the Trump admin into the fascists the Left always hoped they'd turn into. As these things keep happening, more people are being severely hurt by the ICE/fed response
My only response to you today.
You are full of SHITE! People are not being "severely hurt" by ICE. Period.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:22 am to Tunasntigers92
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just want to keep my internet dude.
Get a job and at least pay your parents the internet bill
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:25 am to wackatimesthree
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I don't agree with that paragraph at all.
First of all, not enforcing federal law because people are interfering in the enforcement of federal law is basically just rewarding bad behavior. You give in to your toddler throwing a fit, you teach him that's how he gets his way.
The issue isn't enforcing federal law. It's how they're trying to enforce federal law.
The polling was lukewarm and seems to be cratering after this shooting. The public doesn't seem to be responding positively to how the admin is going about enforcing this issue. And illegal immigration was a big point of support for Trump in 2024.
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I'm not really concerned about "winning elections." I know you are.
Kind of matters in terms of what government we get. More leftist governments will not be a good thing.
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. You're afraid to oppose abortion because you're afraid Republicans will lose elections (even though that didn't happen at all),
a. It hurt 2022 bigly
b. More leftist governments will mean more abortions. How is that a win for the anti-abortion POV?
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I also don't understand why using troops is completely off limits. I'm not talking about the insanity that the OP is advocating for—turning out the lights and killing the internet in Minnesota—but troops and or FBI have been deployed before to ensure the enforcement of federal law.
There is a huge gap in an admin action being legal and good policy and popular.
I don't think anyone is arguing it would be illegal, on here. The question/issue is if it's a good policy and if it will be popular.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:26 am to BCreed1
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People are not being "severely hurt" by ICE. Period.
Was the lady who was shot an alien? An elephant? An interdimensional demon?
Note: I'm not saying the shooting was wrong, only that it's clear that she was "severely hurt" by ICE
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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There is a huge gap in an admin action being legal and good policy and popular.
His policies are very popular here. Maybe not in the wine tasting circles you run in
Posted on 1/16/26 at 9:31 am to texag7
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His policies are very popular here
I'd wager you live in a very red area already which won't swing elections as the vote is already locked in.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 10:15 am to BCreed1
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We have conservatives here freaking out over this
No we don't. They're "conservatives" :::wink wink:::
Posted on 1/16/26 at 12:06 pm to the808bass
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“I remember the glory days of Kent State.”
On a side note, I sat in on one of the federal trials by a person shot at Kent State who was paralyzed.
Was fascinating.
As for the insurrection act, I am not a fan of it right now. I think the blowback settles down with the freezing weather. I would focus on the fraud and enforce in another state for a week or so. Like someone else said...play wackamole and keep moving around.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 12:38 pm to Tunasntigers92
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Bro my stonk bro. MUH STONKS
He is responding with well though out articulate responses with facts. The best you can muster is this. Today’s left, folks.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 12:52 pm to Tunasntigers92
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This place has been monitored heavily since 2008
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Registered on: 9/1/2014
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:05 pm to Jugbow
Are you not aware that anyone present in this county does have Constitutional rights?
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:09 pm to SpecialK_88
People are having a hard time looking outside of their own interests in the immediate short term.
We went from: “Don’t Tread on Me”
To: “It’s ok - Tread on Me”, “But Tread on Them First”
We went from: “Don’t Tread on Me”
To: “It’s ok - Tread on Me”, “But Tread on Them First”
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